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Re: [council] FW: Letter from Cherine Chalaby


All,
I would like to offer a few thoughts for your consideration:

1. Unlike in the meeting in Singapore, the Board / NGPC is not asking us to 
change GNSO policy recommendation by way of negotiation. Some rightfully 
pointed out that the policy recommendations cannot be changed informally by way 
of negotiations. The letter we received does not suggest that, but it refers to 
the existing  procedure to revisit and potentially modify GNSO policy 
recommendation. 

2. The NGPC's initiative to contact the parties involved is the right way. It 
is my view that it is the Board's / NGPC's responsibility to assess whether 
solutions can be found to mitigate friction between the GAC and the GNSO. 
Imagine the Board had just made a determination without reaching out to either 
party. I would have perceived that as top-down. Again, if proper process allows 
for considering and actually reaching compromise solutions, it is legitimate to 
ask the GNSO Council to consider this option. 

3. Looking at what would need to be done, the modifications would be required:

- The GNSO recommendations included one that would permit IGO acronyms for a 90 
days claims service. The request is that this is extended to the lifetime of 
the TMCH. So basically we are talking about extending the 

- Opening the URS for these designations. That is covered by the recently 
initiated PDP. I also note that the Board has indicated they will wait for the 
outcome of the PDP.

- Protecting additional RCRC designations, which have so far been granted the 
90 days claims service in our recommendations.

From memory, protections for IGO acronym protections have been the most 
controversial designations both at the WG as well as the Council level. For 
these, we are not asked for additional protections such as reserving or 
blocking. 

There should be a discussion whether or not the Council should reconvene the 
WG. I am standing by to continue chairing the WG and its deliberations if need 
be. 


Let me suggest we discuss the following two questions separately:

1. Shall the NGPC's recommendation be followed and the WG reconvene?

2. How does the Council view the Board's / NGPC's approach to resolving the 
issue?

It seems to me that the concerns of many are relating to the second, 
fundamental question. This is why I think it would be helpful to separate the 
two, i.e. talk about the specific suggestion relating to the policy 
recommendations and also about the more general issue.

Best,
Thomas




Am 17.06.2014 um 18:22 schrieb john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

> All,
>  
> Based on the presentation we got from Chris Disspain in Singapore, the Board 
> is trying to figure out how to abide by the contradictory Council policy 
> (passed unanimously) and GAC advice (s growing presence in the life of ICANN) 
> on the matter.  I feel their pain, but worry/assume in the current Internet 
> governance-fueled environment, if a collaborative solution is not found, the 
> GAC will prevail.
>  
> Not compromise or capitulation, but collaboration. 
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Berard
>  
> --------- Original Message ---------
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: Letter from Cherine Chalaby
> From: "Maria Farrell" <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 6/17/14 9:08 am
> To: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Marika Konings" <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, "James M. Bladel" 
> <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Thanks so much, Jonathan.
> 
> 
> On 17 June 2014 16:51, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks James & Maria,
> 
>  
> Noted.  We have a lengthy slot on Saturday to discuss substantial issues as 
> well as our session with the Board.
> 
>  
> I expect that this issue can be well aired then and it is also likely to be 
> on our agenda for the public GNSO Council meeting on Wednesday.
> 
>  
> Jonathan
> 
>  
> From: Maria Farrell [mailto:maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 17 June 2014 15:19
> To: Marika Konings
> Cc: James M. Bladel; jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: Letter from Cherine Chalaby
>  
>  
> This indeed very concerning - a further extension of supra-legal 'rights' 
> using the TMCH, itself a deeply problematic mechanism created in inequitable 
> circumstances.
> 
> I also hope that sufficient time will be allocated at our meeting to discuss 
> this issue.
> 
> Maria
> 
>  
> On 17 June 2014 08:12, Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi James,
> 
>  
> We'll get the letter posted on the GNSO correspondence page. Please note that 
> in the meantime it is also available from the Council mailing list archives 
> (http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/pdfJhQNX8whn3.pdf). 
> 
>  
> Best regards,
> 
>  
> Marika
> 
>  
> From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday 17 June 2014 08:47
> To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: Letter from Cherine Chalaby
> 
>  
> Jonathan and fellow Councilors:
> 
>  
> This is a concerning development, and I hope we will have ample space on our 
> agenda to discuss in London.  Question:  Will this letter be published on the 
> GNSO/ICANN correspondence page in advance of the weekend sessions?
> 
>  
> Thanks—
> 
>  
> J.
> 
>  
>  
> From: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Organization: Afilias
> Reply-To: "jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, June 16, 2014 at 23:11 
> To: GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [council] FW: Letter from Cherine Chalaby
> 
>  
> All,
> 
>  
> FYI and for further discussion / follow-up.
> 
>  
> Jonathan
> 
>  
> From: Megan Bishop [mailto:megan.bishop@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 16 June 2014 21:09
> To: jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Letter from Cherine Chalaby
> 
>  
> Dear Jonathan,
> 
>  
> Attached please find a letter from Cherine Chalaby, providing an update on 
> the ongoing work by the NGPC in response to the GNSO policy recommendations 
> regarding Protection of IGO-INGO identifiers.
> 
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Megan 
> 
>  
> Megan Bishop
> 
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