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Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">hi 
all,<div><br></div><div>thanks for the comments. &nbsp;here’s a new 
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ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated volunteers carry an
extraordinary proportion of the working-group load and correctly identifies
this as a major concern.&nbsp; We note that simply increasing the pool of
people aware of and in some way engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the
goal.&nbsp; Ultimately what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of
active and effective volunteer participants in PDP working groups.&nbsp;
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volunteers to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting
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well-supported progression for community volunteers to gain the skills,
knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP participants
and leaders.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>We support reversing 
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current trend of too little focus on the recruiting, development and support of
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"><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>Thomas</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Am
 21.02.2014 um 15:48 schrieb "James M. Bladel" &lt;<a 
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<div>I also support Mikey’s edits, but to Klaus’ point, I’m wondering if we can 
insert something emphasizing that new participants be “volunteers”? &nbsp; 
&nbsp;We do not want to encourage the trend of hiring outside experts, 
proliferating Staff, and hand-picked participants
 chosen by an opaque “selection committee.”</div>
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<div>J.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Klaus Stoll &lt;<a 
href="mailto:kdrstoll@xxxxxxxxx";>kdrstoll@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, February 21, 2014 at 8:02 
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<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Reed, Daniel A" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:dan-reed@xxxxxxxxx";>dan-reed@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, Mike O'Connor 
&lt;<a href="mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx";>mike@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, GNSO Council List 
&lt;<a href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [council] Second 
Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report &amp; 
Recommendations<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Fine with me as long as we don't start breading 
more "experts".<br>
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Klaus<br>
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On 2/21/2014 2:46 PM, Reed, Daniel A wrote:<br>
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; 
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think this is 
fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; 
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125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, 
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 
Calibri, sans-serif;"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
 [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike O'Connor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 21, 2014 7:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>
council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review 
Team (ATRT 2) Final Report &amp; Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">hi all, <o:p></o:p></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">i agree Maria. &nbsp;i had a go at adding another 
paragraph to our response to Rec #10.3 and have attached the revised draft. 
&nbsp;but to save you time, here’s the language i inserted&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, 
sans-serif;">"The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated 
volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group load and 
correctly identifies this as a
 major concern.&nbsp; We note that simply increasing the pool of people aware 
of and in some way engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the goal.&nbsp; 
Ultimately what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of active and 
effective participants in PDP working
 groups.&nbsp; Although outreach is an important part of the effort and crucial 
for bringing newcomers to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply 
recruiting a large diverse group of people.&nbsp; Rather, there needs to be a 
clear and well-supported progression
 for newcomers to gain the skills, knowledge and experience needed to broaden 
the ranks of active PDP participants and leaders.</span><span style="font-size: 
11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p 
class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, 
sans-serif;">happy to consider revisions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">mikey<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:56 AM, Maria Farrell &lt;<a 
moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx";>maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; 
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi 
Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm happy to support 
this, and thank you for drafting it. There's one small typo, track changes 
version attached. It's in para 1, page 3.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'd have liked if we 
tackled head-on the issue of the narrowness of some PDP WGs' participation, 
which the ATRT2 report provided some pretty convincing numbers on. But as I 
haven't gone to the trouble of actually
 drafting anything on it, I can't complain. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">All the best, Maria<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">On 21 February 2014 09:15, Avri Doria &lt;<a 
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:avri@xxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">avri@xxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
As a member of the ATRT2, I do not believe it my job to comment on our 
report.<br>
<br>
I think the GNSO response is fine as far as it goes and I am pleased that at 
least something is being submitted - though I must admit I am less than 
enthused about responses that essentially say "we are already doing that".<br>
<br>
I might have wished for it to be more supportive of other aspects of the 
report, but the response is what it is.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
<br>
On 21-Feb-14 09:43, Jonathan Robinson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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class="MsoNormal">*_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 8 HOURS_*<br>
<br>
*From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>]<br>
*Sent:* 20 February 2014 09:38<br>
*To:* <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">
council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
*Subject:* RE: Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 
<o:p></o:p></p>
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2) Final Report &amp; Recommendations<br>
<br>
All,<br>
<br>
The deadline for submission of public comment on the ends approximately<br>
36 hours from now.<br>
<br>
I am OK to submit a letter in substantially the same for as that<br>
distributed to you on 14 Feb (see below) and re-attached to this letter.<br>
<br>
BUT<br>
<br>
I need your support to do so. &nbsp;Accordingly, even if you simply provide<br>
support without any comment on the content, that will be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">*_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS_*<br>
<br>
Thank-you.<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
*From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]<br>
*Sent:* 14 February 2014 17:21<br>
*To:* <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">
council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> &lt;mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target="_blank">council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
*Subject:* Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2)<br>
Final Report &amp; Recommendations<br>
*Importance:* High <o:p></o:p></p>
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All,<br>
<br>
If you are not already, please be aware of the following:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm";
 
target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal">The opportunity to provide comments _ends one week 
from today 23h59 UTC<br>
on 21 Feb 2014_. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
The ATRT2 interacted with many in the community during the course of its<br>
work, including directly with the GNSO Council which was certainly<br>
appreciated. &nbsp;We now have an opportunity to comment on the final 
report.<br>
<br>
If we do intend to comment, my opinion is that we should at least submit<br>
an indication of intent, if not the primary comment, in the initial<br>
comment period and not wait for the reply period.<br>
<br>
Given the tight time frame, I have taken the unusual step of drafting a<br>
council response for your consideration. &nbsp;The ATRT2 deals with some<br>
critical areas of GNSO work and function and so it seems to me that we<br>
should respond to the call for comments, specifically in so far as the<br>
report deals with GNSO Policy and directly related areas.<br>
<br>
I am aware that some of you were on the ATRT2 and others actively worked<br>
on Council interaction with the ATRT2. &nbsp;Therefore, you may well have<br>
strong views on the subject matter.<br>
<br>
I look forward to your input and any suggestions.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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