RE: Re: [council] About Designing a 21st Century ICANN

[john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Mikey, et. al.,
 
The danger (if I can call it that) here is that any question will be painted as 
opposition.  I look forward to the report from Jonathan on his meeting with 
Beth.
 
Berard
 
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] About Designing a 
21st Century ICANN
From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2/3/14 12:14 pm
To: jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Gabriela Szlak" <gabrielaszlak@xxxxxxxxx>, "Maria Farrell" 
<maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>, "John Berard" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Council" 
<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Phil Corwin just posted a lengthy discussion on the Brazil meeting and he 
mentions this study down toward the bottom of his piece.  here's a link to the 
whole article  
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140203_downsizing_sao_paulo/
 
and here's the quote that caught my eye
 
  The Singapore ICANN meeting occurs midway in that period, and is likely to 
devote a considerable amount of time and attention to discussing Sao Paulo, 
just as occurred in the final 2013 ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires - although 
unresolved technical and policy issues related to the new gTLD program, as well 
as forthcoming output from the five Presidential Strategy Panels will also 
share the spotlight. The first of those Panel reports "The Quest for a 21st 
Century ICANN: A Blueprint”, has just emerged from the ICANN Strategy Panel on 
Multistakeholder Innovation and it proposes what may prove to be rather 
controversial changes in the operation of ICANN's own multistakeholder process 
- including the establishment of an Internet Governance Laboratory that "would 
function as a Governance Experimentation Collaborative aka a Skunk Works among 
all the Internet governance organizations", crowdsourcing each stage of ICANN 
decision-making, and a recommendation that:
 
 ICANN should therefore experiment with running parallel processes for one year 
side by side with existing stakeholder groups to prepare for their possible 
phase-out in some cases. For instance, ICANN could pilot organizing 
participants topically rather than by currently existing constituency groups 
(defined by interest). Within such an experiment, the crowdsourcing practices 
described above can be used as alternatives and complements to existing 
stakeholder group practices.
  
Many ICANN constituencies were already concerned that the GNSO was being made 
less relevant by top-down management decision-making (as evidenced by the 
announcement of the Strategy Panels absent any prior discussion with the 
community) and that GNSO review had been delayed, and may well take strong 
exception to their replacement of their function, and their value as recognized 
long-term interest groups, by temporary ad hoc issue entities. 
 
   On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

    Thanks All,
  
 Personally, I can see no reason to use such words.  That symbolic detail 
aside, this does throw up some critical points about how we engage with this 
work.
  
 I have a call planned this week to talk one-to-one with Beth Novek in order to 
give some feedback.  I'll obviously take into account any input from the 
Council.
  
 In addition, the Council needs to think about any other feedback, responses or 
engagement with the work of this panel.
  
 Jonathan
  
 From: Gabriela Szlak [mailto:gabrielaszlak@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 03 February 2014 17:46
To: Maria Farrell
Cc: John Berard; Jonathan Robinson; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [council] About Designing a 21st Century ICANN
 
   ... And bear in mind that the purpose - in their own words is- :
 
 
 
·         Proposing new models for broad, inclusive engagement, consensus-based 
policymaking and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions; 
and
 ·         Designing processes, tools and platforms that enable a global ICANN 
community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making
  Google translator cannot even translate those two words... it feels really 
strange to talk about global engagement and participatory processes only in 
English and in a an English that it seems also complex for english speakers to 
get...
 

 
G.
 

 

 



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  2014-02-03 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>:
  Goodness, I also nearly snorted my coffee but held it down long enough to 
look up 'scylla' and 'charybdis'. I was chagrinned to learn these new (to me) 
words were first used in the ICANN context by the beloved Norwegian Harald 
Alvestrand back in 2002, a few reform movements back. Who knew?

"The current ICANN has attempted to chart a course between the scylla of doing 
nothing and the charybdis of doing everything;" 
http://www.alvestrand.no/icann/icann_reform.html
 

  On 3 February 2014 17:23, <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Jonathan,
 

 
My coffee came through my nose this morning when I read the blueprint from the 
multistakeholder strategy panel.  But, while language like this: "engaging 
people in meaningful and productive conversations about how to redesign the way 
ICANN runs itself is difficult because the conversation gets caught, on the one 
hand, between the scylla of broad generalities and geopolitics without regard 
to the specifics of ICANN's day-to-day work, and the charybdis of mind-numbing 
technical detail on the other" is a bit overblown, it also works as 
mis-direction. There is no argument but that generalities, geopolitics and 
technical detail are a part of ICANN's life, but I would argue with "broad" and 
"mind-numbing."  That kind of language tips the player's hand.
 

Further, by pegging effectiveness to the use of expert networks and linking 
legitimacy to crowdsourcing at each stage of decision making may only hint at 
the future shape of ICANN but it is clear in its view that the current version 
is no longer appetizing.  I will likely think hard about that as I pack for the 
trip to Singapore.
 

 
Cheers,
 

 
Berard
 

 
 --------- Original Message ---------
  Subject: [council] FW: Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN
From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2/3/14 1:12 am
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN
   
  
   From: The ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation & The GovLab 
[mailto:icannmsipanel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 31 January 2014 19:01
To: jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN
 


                  
 
                                      
    
    
    
 
                 Hello! By engaging the stakeholders of the Internet (this 
really includes everyone!), the ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder 
Innovation (the MSI Panel) and The Governance Lab @ NYU (The GovLab) are 
working to develop a set of concrete proposals for designing the Internet 
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) - the public interest 
organization responsible for coordinating the Internet's Domain Name System 
(DNS) - for the 21st Century.
 We're writing to request your participation in this important initiative and 
to help us spread the word!
 Today launches Stage 2 - Proposal Development -of our online engagement effort 
aimed at getting your input into the Panel's work in order to bring our ideas 
for evolving ICANN from principle to practice. The Panel has been specifically 
charged by ICANN's President and CEO with:
 ·  Proposing new models for international engagement, consensus-driven 
policymaking and institutional structures to support such enhanced functions; 
and
 ·  Designing processes, tools and platforms that enable the global ICANN 
community to engage in these new forms of participatory decision-making.
  To answer this charter, we launched a three-stage brainstorm initiative on 
November 19, 2013. We started with Stage 1: Idea Generation. The Panel and 
GovLab launched an engagement platform asking the global public to share their 
ideas for what techniques, strategies, tools and platforms ICANN could look to 
and learn from to help transform itself into an effective, legitimate and 
evolving 21st century global organization. 

We now want to take these ideas closer to implementation during Stage 2. To do 
so, we've shared the draft proposal blueprint on the GovLab Blog organizing all 
of our ideas into 16 concrete proposals for ICANN, which we are opening up to 
you for discussion. We want your feedback, input, comments, questions, and 
suggestions on what we've collected. We've also published our first set of 
proposals, which include recommendations for ICANN to:
 
 Leverage expert networking; Use crowdsourcing during all phases of 
decisionmaking; and Crowdsource oversight and develop standards to measure 
success. 

  Feel free to provide feedback or reactions using comments or the line-by-line 
annotation tools enabled on the blog.

You can also see all of these materials aggregated on the GovLab's ICANN 
project page, online HERE.
 
Help us spread the word!
 Do you know any people or organizations who would be interested in these 
proposal topics? We'd love to get their feedback, too. Consider doing any of 
the following:
 ·  Forward this “Call To Action” to colleagues and organizations you know 
working in these areas who may have ideas or feedback to share on the blog.
 ·  Share our proposal draft links (all accessible here), as widely as possible 
within your networks (e.g., via mailing lists and listservs). Feel free to link 
to these posts or repost on your website edited to fit your needs!
 ·  Use social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter or Google+ to spread 
the word about this initiative (use the #WeCANN hashtag!).
 ·  To inspire participation and learn how to contribute, watch and share a 
video The GovLab made when we launched this brainstorm.
 ·  Discuss the MSI Panel's work and proposals in your own communities and 
share your comments and feedback with the us in the blog comments or at 
icannmsipanel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
   
 Toward the end of February - we will move into the last stage of this 
brainstorm - Stage 3: Collaborative Drafting. Using a wiki, we will invite 
collaborative drafting on a first full draft of all proposals that the Panel 
will then submit to the ICANN CEO, Board and community. So stay tuned!
 For more information, visit The GovLab at www.thegovlab.org.                   
                                                                                
        
 Thanks and best,
 The MSI Panel & The GovLab
 
     
    
    
 
                 
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