RE: [council] RE: Updated Council agenda for GNSO Council Meeting - 13 June 2013 at 11:00 UTC.

["Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Zahid,

 

Two points / questions:

 

1.       We do not have this currently scheduled for discussion.  Where did you 
anticipate we might cover this topic?

2.       Please can you be more specific as to:

a.       Where there may be concerns or issues?

b.      Why these are within the purview of the Council?

 

Jonathan

 

From: Zahid Jamil [mailto:zahid@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 12 June 2013 07:03
To: <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Neuman, Jeff; Glen de Saint Géry; GNSO Council List
Subject: Re: [council] RE: Updated Council agenda for GNSO Council Meeting - 13 
June 2013 at 11:00 UTC.

 

I support Jeff's observations.  

 

Also on a separate but related note would suggest we ensure we have the 
relevant person in staff be available for a discussion focused on the new 
Registry Agreement quite separate from a new gTLD update. I think there may be 
issues to which some may wish to get answers.  

 

 

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On 12 Jun 2013, at 00:09, "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Jeff,

 

The current times are not too accurate as what may or not be required in terms 
of discussion


I am more than willing to revise.  I will await any other input and then 
republish with revised times.

 

Jonathan

 

 

 

From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 11 June 2013 19:45
To: 'Glen de Saint Géry'; 'GNSO Council List'
Subject: [council] RE: Updated Council agenda for GNSO Council Meeting - 13 
June 2013 at 11:00 UTC.

 

All,

 

I think the discussion time for the Reconsideration request is way too limited 
and we need (in my view) to have MUCH more time discussing that subject.  Can I 
request that we shorten the remarks of the chair to 5 minutes (Sorry Jonathan), 
and then move item 4 to the consent agenda would give us another 15 minutes.  
What is the action item on the call for GNSO Review?  We have allocated 15 
minutes to confirm whether we should set up a group to discuss this issue?

Finally, I am not sure that we should spend actual Council time talking about 
the “Planning for Durban.”  I personally think we should establish a meetings 
subcommittee to help the vice chairs in planning for meetings and then perhaps 
solicit other opinions on e-mail.  If we have to use Council time for these 
things, then perhaps we need to have additional special meetings that are topic 
specific.


I believe we are at a cross-roads here for the GNSO and the whole bottom-up 
process.  We need to devote the appropriate amount of time to discussing the 
ramifications and take ownership of the role that the Council and the Community 
are supposed to play.

 

I ask therefore that we commit 45 minutes at a minimum to this topic.  


Thanks.

 

From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:17 PM
To: GNSO Council List
Subject: [council] Updated Council agenda for GNSO Council Meeting - 13 June 
2013 at 11:00 UTC.

 

Dear All,

 

Please find the updated Council agenda for GNSO Council Meeting – 13 June 2013 
at 11:00 UTC.

The wording of the motion in Item 4 has been adjusted.
In Item 5, the second paragraph now reads:

Contrary to its initial recommendation, Staff now recommends that a PDP be 
initiated as it is expected that the work of this PDP will helpfully inform the 
deliberations of other efforts that are looking into gTLD registration data 
services such as the Expert Working Group (EWG) and the subsequent PDP.

 

Thank you.

Kind regards,

 

Glen

https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+13+June+2013
http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/agenda-council-13jun13-en.htm

the motions are published on page:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+13+June+2013

This agenda was established according to the GNSO Council Operating Procedures 
approved 16 May 2013 for the GNSO Council and updated.

 <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16may13-en.pdf> 
http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-16may13-en.pdf

For convenience:

*       An excerpt of the ICANN Bylaws defining the voting thresholds is 
provided in Appendix 1 at the end of this agenda.
*       An excerpt from the Council Operating Procedures defining the absentee 
voting procedures is provided in Appendix 2 at the end of this agenda.

 <http://tinyurl.com/bojlrbx> Meeting Times 11:00 UTC
http://tinyurl.com/qajy5ap

Coordinated Universal Time 11:00 UTC
04:00 Los Angeles; 11:00 Washington; 12:00 London; 13:00 Paris; 23:00 
Wellington 

Dial-in numbers will be sent individually to Council members. Councilors should 
notify the GNSO Secretariat in advance if a dial out call is needed.

Item 1: Administrative matters (10 minutes)

1.1 Roll Call
1.2 Statement of interest updates
1.3 Review/amend agenda
1.4. Note the status of minutes for the previous Council meeting per the GNSO 
Operating Procedures:

Minutes of the GNSO Council meeting 16 May 2013 
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/minutes-council-16may13-en.htm>  posted as 
approved on 30 May 2013

Item 2: Opening remarks from the Chair (10 minutes)

Review focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes / topics

Include brief review of  <http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/projects-list.pdf> 
Projects List and  
<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Action+Items> Action 
List

Item 3: Consent agenda ([0] minutes)

TBC.




Item 4: MOTION – to Adopt Proposed Modification of the GNSO Operating 
Procedures Concerning the Deadline for the Submission of Reports and Motions 
(10 minutes)

The GNSO Council has determined that the language concerning the deadline for 
the submission of reports and motions in the current GNSO Operating Procedures 
lacks clarity.  The GNSO Council proposes a modification of the GNSO Operating 
Procedures that reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for 
inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 23h59 
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on the day, 10 calendar days before the GNSO 
Council meeting.

Link to motion
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+13+June+2013

4.1 Reading of the motion (Wolf-Ulrich Knoben)
4.2 Discussion of motion.
4.3 Vote (Threshold: Simple majority of Both 4 CPH, 7 NCPH).


Item 5: MOTION - Initiation of a Policy Development Process (PDP) on the 
Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information (10 minutes)

A Final Issue Report on the translation and transliteration of contact 
information was submitted to the GNSO Council on 21 March 2013 (see  
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/library> http://gnso.icann.org/en/library).

Contrary to its initial recommendation, Staff now recommends that a PDP be 
initiated as it is expected that the work of this PDP will helpfully inform the 
deliberations of other efforts that are looking into gTLD registration data 
services such as the Expert Working Group (EWG) and the subsequent PDP.

Also, as recommended by the WHOIS Policy Review Team, the Final Issue Report 
recommends that ICANN should commission a study on the commercial feasibility 
of translation or transliteration systems for internationalized contact data, 
which is expected to help inform the PDP Working Group in its deliberations;

ICANN's General Counsel has confirmed that the topic is properly within the 
scope of the ICANN policy process and within the scope of the GNSO.

An overview of the Final Issue Report was provided in Beijing. Voting on this 
motion was deferred at the GNSO Council Meeting of 16 May 2013. The Council is 
now expected to consider whether or not to initiate a PDP.  

Motion
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+13+June+2013

5.1 Reading of the motion (Ching Chiao)
5.2 Discussion
5.3 Vote (Threshold: 33% of Both 3 CPH, 5 NCPH; OR 66% of ONE 5 CPH, 9 NCPH)

Item 6: DISCUSSION – Reconsideration request from the Non-Commercial 
Stakeholder group relating to decision on the Trademark Clearinghouse (15 mins)

On the 19th April 2013, the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group submitted a 
Reconsideration Request to the ICANN Board Governance Committee (BGC). On the 
16 May 2013, the BGC Recommendation on the Reconsideration Request was 
published.  Concerns have been raised within the Council about:

1.      The nature of the response to this particular request.  Specifically in 
terms of the arguments presented within the response and the perceived or 
actual implications of these arguments on the workings of the multi-stakeholder 
model. 
2.      More generally about the effectiveness of the reconsideration process.

The Council will consider the content of the recent Recommendation on the 
Reconsideration Request and the discussion will focus not on the outcome of the 
Reconsideration Request but rather on the arguments presented and any potential 
implications for the GNSO and the multi-stakeholder model.

Item 7: DISCUSSION – Forthcoming reviews of the GNSO and GNSO Council (15 mins)

As part of a periodic review process that is built into the ICANN model, both 
the GNSO Council and the GNSO will come up for ICANN Board initiated review.  
In order to be effectively prepared for these reviews, it was proposed in 
Beijing that a group be formed to understand the issues and begin to take 
appropriate next steps.  One key suggestion from Beijing was that any group 
(such as the Council) being reviewed undertakes a form of self-review.

Here the Council will confirm the intended course of action and provide input 
into a draft call for volunteers for a non-PDP WG.

Item 8: UPDATE & DISCUSSION – Report on User Experience Implications of Active 
Variant TLDs & IDN Letter to the Board (10 mins)

During its meeting in Beijing, the ICANN Board requested that, by 1 July 2013, 
interested Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees provide staff with 
any input and guidance they may have to be factored into implementation of the 
Recommendations from the  
<http://www.icann.org/en/resources/idn/variant-tlds/active-ux-21mar13-en.pdf> 
Report on User Experience Implications of Active Variant TLDs' (see  
<http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/prelim-report-11apr13-en.htm#2.a>
 
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/prelim-report-11apr13-en.htm#2.a).
 The Report on User Experience Implications of Active Variant TLDs examines 
potential challenges from a user experience perspective when variants of IDN 
TLDs are activated and offers recommendations to users to minimize risks and 
optimize the implementation. 

 

Ideally, input is requested on:

a)      Which recommendations if any, are pre-requisites to the delegation of 
any IDN variant TLDs (i.e., delegation of IDN Variant TLDs should not proceed 
until these recommendations are implemented),

b)      Which recommendations, if any, can be deferred until a later time, and

c)       c) Which recommendations, if any, require additional policy work by 
the ICANN community and should be referred to the relevant stakeholder group 
for further policy work

 

Furthermore, it was suggested that the GNSO Council should send a letter to the 
Board highlighting the importance of IDN related issues. A first draft of such 
letter was sent to the GNSO Council mailing list on 11/4 (see 
http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg14489.html). 

 

At the 16 may 2013 Council Meeting, the Council received a presentation on the 
Report on User Experience Implications of Active Variant TLDs

http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/presentation-variant-tlds-ux-16may13-en.pdf

8.1 Discussion

8.2 Next steps – Any additional action to be taken?

8.3 Update on letter to the Board (Ching Chiao)

Item 9: UPDATE & DISCUSSION – Planning for Durban (20 minutes) 

Making the most out of the face-to-face meeting time available at the ICANN 
Meeting in Durban will take planning.  GNSO Council VC Wolf-Ulrich Knoben is 
working with staff to lead this effort. 

The Council has had the opportunity to feed into plans and provide input based 
on past experience, including most recently in Beijing.  Included in this item 
will be the opportunity to shape the topics and substance of the Council’s 
proposed meetings with other groups in Durban such as the CCNSO, the GAC and 
the ICANN board.

9.1 – Update (Wolf-Ulrich Knoben)
9.2 – Discussion
9.3 – Next steps

Item 10: Any Other Business (5 minutes)




Appendix 1: GNSO Council Voting Thresholds (ICANN Bylaws, Article X, Section 3)

9. Except as otherwise specified in these Bylaws, Annex A hereto, or the GNSO 
Operating Procedures, the default threshold to pass a GNSO Council motion or 
other voting action requires a simple majority vote of each House. The voting 
thresholds described below shall apply to the following GNSO actions:

a. Create an Issues Report: requires an affirmative vote of more than 
one-fourth (1/4) vote of each House or majority of one House.

b. Initiate a Policy Development Process ("PDP") Within Scope (as described in  
<http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#AnnexA> Annex A): requires an 
affirmative vote of more than one-third (1/3) of each House or more than 
two-thirds (2/3) of one House.

c. Initiate a PDP Not Within Scope: requires an affirmative vote of GNSO 
Supermajority.

d. Approve a PDP Team Charter for a PDP Within Scope: requires an affirmative 
vote of more than one-third (1/3) of each House or more than two-thirds (2/3) 
of one House.

e. Approve a PDP Team Charter for a PDP Not Within Scope: requires an 
affirmative vote of a GNSO Supermajority.

f. Changes to an Approved PDP Team Charter: For any PDP Team Charter approved 
under d. or e. above, the GNSO Council may approve an amendment to the Charter 
through a simple majority vote of each House.

g. Terminate a PDP: Once initiated, and prior to the publication of a Final 
Report, the GNSO Council may terminate a PDP only for significant cause, upon a 
motion that passes with a GNSO Supermajority Vote in favor of termination.

h. Approve a PDP Recommendation Without a GNSO Supermajority: requires an 
affirmative vote of a majority of each House and further requires that one GNSO 
Council member representative of at least 3 of the 4 Stakeholder Groups 
supports the Recommendation.

i. Approve a PDP Recommendation With a GNSO Supermajority: requires an 
affirmative vote of a GNSO Supermajority,

j. Approve a PDP Recommendation Imposing New Obligations on Certain Contracting 
Parties: where an ICANN contract provision specifies that "a two-thirds vote of 
the council" demonstrates the presence of a consensus, the GNSO Supermajority 
vote threshold will have to be met or exceeded.

k. Modification of Approved PDP Recommendation: Prior to Final Approval by the 
ICANN Board, an Approved PDP Recommendation may be modified or amended by the 
GNSO Council with a GNSO Supermajority vote.

l. A "GNSO Supermajority" shall mean: (a) two-thirds (2/3) of the Council 
members of each House, or (b) three-fourths (3/4) of one House and a majority 
of the other House."

Appendix 2: Absentee Voting Procedures ( 
<http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-operating-procedures-22sep11-en.pdf> GNSO 
Operating Procedures 4.4)

4.4.1 Applicability

Absentee voting is permitted for the following limited number of Council 
motions or measures.

a. Initiate a Policy Development Process (PDP);
b. Approve a PDP recommendation;
c. Recommend amendments to the GNSO Operating Procedures (GOP) or ICANN Bylaws;
d. Fill a Council position open for election.

4.4.2 Absentee ballots, when permitted, must be submitted within the announced 
time limit, which shall be 72 hours from the meeting's adjournment. In 
exceptional circumstances, announced at the time of the vote, the Chair may 
reduce this time to 24 hours or extend the time to 7 calendar days, provided 
such amendment is verbally confirmed by all Vice-Chairs present.

4.4.3 The GNSO Secretariat will administer, record, and tabulate absentee votes 
according to these procedures and will provide reasonable means for 
transmitting and authenticating absentee ballots, which could include voting by 
telephone, e- mail, web-based interface, or other technologies as may become 
available.

4.4.4 Absentee balloting does not affect quorum requirements. (There must be a 
quorum for the meeting in which the vote is initiated.)

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