Re: [council] updated draft letter

[John Berard <johnberard@xxxxxxx>]

I am good to go.

Enjoy the weekend.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
To: john <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Thomas Rickert <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>; GNSO Council List 
<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [council] updated draft letter


Thanks John,


I thought as much and that makes much more sense.


If we are OK with the letter as-is addressed to both, I will send on Monday.







Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM NetNames France
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Registry Relations and Strategy Director

NetNames
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Le 21 sept. 2012 à 17:45, <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :



Stephane,


You did misunderstand.  I did not want to cut Bertrand out, but merely to 
include the full Board or, if chosen, to focus on the appropriate committees.  
It is a nod to official responsibilities.  


You know I am the soul of propriety.


Cheers,


John Berard
Founder
Credible Context
58 West Portal Avenue, #291
San Francisco, CA 94127
m: 415.845.4388




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [council] updated draft letter
From: Stéphane_Van_Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, September 21, 2012 7:28 am
To: Thomas Rickert <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Thanks Thomas.


Unless anyone objects violently, I plan to address the letter to both Ray and 
Bertrand. After all, it was Bertrand who contacted us so it would be plain rude 
IMO to bypass him in our response.


As a personal note, I have to admit to not understanding John's desire to cut 
Bertrand out at all (if that's what it is - it is entirely possible I just 
misunderstood).


 




Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM NetNames France
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Registry Relations and Strategy Director

NetNames
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Le 21 sept. 2012 à 15:49, Thomas Rickert a écrit :



Stéphane,
this was proposed to address John's concern. I had copied John's comment in an 
earlier e-mail to the list.
Please find below an updated letter with Ray as addressee and Bertrand in cc 
(as indicated at the end of the letter). 


Thanks,
Thomas










Ray Plzak




Chairman of the Board Structural Improvements Committee



Dear Ray,
the GNSO Council would like to thank you for the opportunity to provide 
feedback to your request for input on the impact of new gTLDs on ICANN's 
structure.
As you know, the Council as well as individual SGs and Constituencies have been 
discussing this important subject for a long time now. It has also been a topic 
during face to face meetings between the GNSO Council and the Board and GAC as 
well as with the ccNSO. Some groups have already or will respond to the Board 
directly and our impression is that they are confident to have taken 
appropriate steps to address the upcoming challenges. 
As far as the Council is concerned, here will most likely be quantitative and 
qualitative challenges. What these will be and their size can hardly be 
predicted. 
In qualitative terms, there may be new requests to form constituencies and new 
stakeholder groups in both houses, some of which may be re-configurations or 
alignments of existing groups.
Since this is an unknown factor, the effects on the democratic and 
participatory process of the Council and the response to that are yet to be 
seen. However, we would like to highlight that ICANN is already publishing 
information on how to participate (see 
http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/participation.htm) including information on how 
to form a Constituency. Thus, the information and processes are available to be 
inclusive 
In quantitative terms, challenges are more predictable in some aspects. For 
sure, there will be 
- more attention by the general pubic and Governments;
- more attendants at meetings, which has an impact on sizing the venues; 
- more groups that need administrative and technical support;
- more telephone conferences with more participants and more remote 
participation;
- more documents to be produced and read; 
- more decisions to be made and operationalized;
- more contractors that need to be managed;
- the need for ever more stringent budget management and control; and
- more compliance issues that need to be taken care of.
These quantitative challenges require managerial responses that ICANN can 
prepare for. Such preparations should also encompass the increased burden on 
volunteers to deal with even more and potentially more complex material to work 
on. Processes and support schemes for volunteers should be designed to best 
possibly avoid volunteer fatigue.
The unknown is what new groups will be established and what their place and 
role in the ICANN eco system shall be. However, additions will only lead to 
marginal changes that can be dealt with once they are known.
In summary, the GNSO Council believes that the current structure is resilient 
to respond to the challenges to come as long as ICANN provides the resources 
required to accommodate an increasing number of participants / stakeholders and 
their respective needs.  
Thank you,
Stéphane van Gelder
Chair, GNSO Council



cc: Bertrand de La Chapelle




















Am 21.09.2012 um 11:18 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:


Why Ray and not Bertrand?


 




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NetNames
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Le 21 sept. 2012 à 10:39, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :


OK, thanks Thomas.


Can we send the letter out today?


 




Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM NetNames France
----------------
Registry Relations and Strategy Director

NetNames
T: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 51
F: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 61






 
 

Le 21 sept. 2012 à 10:31, Thomas Rickert a écrit :


Hello Stéphane,
we are almost there. There was just one suggestion for a change sent by John, 
which I have copied below:




***
Thomas,

As much as I like stirring the pot, I wonder if we can do one or two
things to this letter than have less to do with its content, but its
character.

I know that Bertrand is a member of the Board Structural Improvements
Committee, but I don't think that is what motivated his request. Neither
is he on the New gTLD Committee.

He is likely hoping to help solve a problem, much as he tried to do in
Cartagena at the Council dinner even before he was seated on the Board. 
Because of that, could we address the letter to the Board overall (or
either of its committees?) and change the opening paragraph to note the
request from Bertrand?

I hate the thought that I am getting mired in the kind of kabuki that I
often rail about, but I am uneasy about upsetting Board comity.

My two cents.

Cheers, 

John Berard
Founder
***


Since there were no objections or comments as a response to that suggestion, I 
propose we address the letter to the Board Structural Improvements Committee 
(SIC), that is to say to Ray Plzak as its chair. Bertrand wrote that the SIC 
will review the proposals and therefore it should be adquate to address its 
chair and cc Bertrand.


The content of the letter should remain unaltered, though.


In my note to the Council I reminded the group of the intention discussed 
during out last call to submit the letter by the end of the week. May I suggest 
that you dispatch it by COB today to allow for additional comments until then?


Thanks,
Thomas





Am 21.09.2012 um 10:12 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:


Thanks Wolf and everyone else who has responded to Thomas' call.


Are we now in a position for me to send the letter as it is now drafted?



 




Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM NetNames France
----------------
Registry Relations and Strategy Director

NetNames
T: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 51
F: +33 (0)1 48 01 83 61






 
 

Le 20 sept. 2012 à 22:12, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :


   
 
The ISPCP is supporting to send out this letter
 
 
Best regards 
Wolf-Ulrich  
 
 

 
 
 
 Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im 
Auftrag von Thomas Rickert
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. September 2012 16:30
An: GNSO Council List
Betreff: [council] updated draft letter 


 
 
Dear all,
 
as discussed during yesterday's call, please find below the draft letter 
regarding the impact of new gTLDs on ICANN's structure including the changes 
proposed by Stéphane. 
 


 
Please provide your comments and suggestions as soon as you can as the plan is 
to finalize the draft by the end of next week.
 


 
Kind regards and have a great weekend,
 
Thomas


Dear Bertrand,
the GNSO Council would like to thank you for the opportunity to provide 
feedback to your request for input on the impact of new gTLDs on ICANN's 
structure.
As you know, the Council as well as individual SGs and Constituencies have been 
discussing this important subject for a long time now. It has also been a topic 
during face to face meetings between the GNSO Council and the Board and GAC as 
well as with the ccNSO. Some groups have already or will respond to the Board 
directly and our impression is that they are confident to have taken 
appropriate steps to address the upcoming challenges. 
As far as the Council is concerned, here will most likely be quantitative and 
qualitative challenges. What these will be and their size can hardly be 
predicted. 
In qualitative terms, there may be new requests to form constituencies and new 
stakeholder groups in both houses, some of which may be re-configurations or 
alignments of existing groups.
Since this is an unknown factor, the effects on the democratic and 
participatory process of the Council and the response to that are yet to be 
seen. However, we would like to highlight that ICANN is already publishing 
information on how to participate (see 
http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/participation.htm) including information on how 
to form a Constituency. Thus, the information and processes are available to be 
inclusive 
In quantitative terms, challenges are more predictable in some aspects. For 
sure, there will be 
- more attention by the general pubic and Governments;
- more attendants at meetings, which has an impact on sizing the venues; 
- more groups that need administrative and technical support;
- more telephone conferences with more participants and more remote 
participation;
- more documents to be produced and read; 
- more decisions to be made and operationalized;
- more contractors that need to be managed;
- the need for ever more stringent budget management and control; and
- more compliance issues that need to be taken care of.
These quantitative challenges require managerial responses that ICANN can 
prepare for. Such preparations should also encompass the increased burden on 
volunteers to deal with even more and potentially more complex material to work 
on. Processes and support schemes for volunteers should be designed to best 
possibly avoid volunteer fatigue.
The unknown is what new groups will be established and what their place and 
role in the ICANN eco system shall be. However, additions will only lead to 
marginal changes that can be dealt with once they are known.
In summary, the GNSO Council believes that the current structure is resilient 
to respond to the challenges to come as long as ICANN provides the resources 
required to accommodate an increasing number of participants / stakeholders and 
their respective needs.  
Thank you,
Stéphane van Gelder
Chair, GNSO Council