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Re: WG: [council] Re: Reminder / Tuesday 14 June 2011 @ 1300 UTC / JAS WG - Board - GAC proposed June 7 meeting
Thanks so much for doing that Wolf. Bill, my sincere apologies for not copying
you, it was an oversight on my part.
Stéphane
Le 14 juin 2011 à 12:57, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> Stéphane,
>
> I've put Bill Graham as the 3rd GNSO elected board member on cc.
>
> Great message, making the entire process and the GNSO position within this
> process very clear!
>
> Kind regards
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
> Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im
> Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011 10:48
> An: Katim S. Touray; GNSO Council List; Peter Dengate Thrush; Rita Rodin
> Johnston; Bruce Tonkin
> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; Secretary; Jeremy Beale; Glen de Saint Géry; Karla
> Valente; Carlton Samuels; Rafik Dammak; ALAC EXCOM; Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> Betreff: [council] Re: Reminder / Tuesday 14 June 2011 @ 1300 UTC / JAS WG -
> Board - GAC proposed June 7 meeting
>
> Hello Katim,
>
> This is a personal reaction to your message.
>
> I am, frankly, aghast that a Board member would send a message indicating
> that one of ICANN's SOs has been "slow" in acting on a report, in the way you
> portray the GNSO as having acted with regards to the JAS Milestone Report.
>
> At best, this shows a lack of understanding of the basic process that our SO
> is committed to following, by its own bylaws and by the ICANN bylaws.
> Immediately after the JAS had forwarded its report to us, it was considered
> by the GNSO Council at its next meeting. During that meeting, one of the GNSO
> groups requested the motion be deferred for one meeting. We have a
> long-standing custom of entertaining such requests. Hence the GNSO considered
> the motion again at its June 9 meeting, where I am happy to say that the
> motion (requesting, among other things, that the report be put out for public
> comment asap) was approved unanimously by the Council.
>
> Regardless of your personal interests, I would think that one of your duties
> as a Board member is to uphold the organisation's bylaws, to respect its SOs
> and to uphold the processes under which they work.
>
> Implying in your message that the GNSO is attempting to scuttle the "entire
> process of seeking ways... to provide support to needy new gTLD applicants"
> is not only untrue (as our unanimous vote shows), it is also a serious
> disregard of the way ICANN and its SOs work. ICANN's bottom-up process is not
> "pick and choose". Just because, on this issue that you care strongly about,
> you feel that things are not moving fast enough, this does not justify false
> allegations of possible attempts by one SO to "scuttle the process".
>
> As your message was sent in the context of a call with the Board, the GAC,
> Staff and ALAC, I consider it very public. Hence it could also be construed
> as an attempt to discredit the hard work being done by the community of
> volunteers that the GNSO represents.
>
> You request suggestions to the Board "to ensure that progress cannot be
> hijacked by inaction by any party" (and this is clearly aimed at the GNSO in
> this case). I would offer one: don't hijack ICANN's core process of working
> through its SOs and ACs towards the Board! I take your message to be a breach
> of that process and would personally appreciate reassurance from you that I
> am mistaken, and that is not what you intend.
>
> In order to initiate possible discussion on this at both Council and Board
> level, I am copying the GNSO Council, Peter as Chairman of the Board and the
> two GNSO-elected Board members for their possible comments.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stéphane
>
>
>
> Le 14 juin 2011 à 01:33, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thanks so much for your invitation to the call. I certainly was looking
>> forward to joining you on the call, but unfortunately, I have a serious
>> conflict that only came up earlier today (Mon.) I am a consultant helping
>> prepare a strategic action plan for our Fisheries Department in The Gambia,
>> and we were in a workshop all day today discussing a draft plan I presented
>> a few weeks back. We were hoping to go through the entire document today,
>> but we could not. So we agreed to meet again tomorrow to complete our
>> review of the draft document. For this reason, I will not be available to
>> join the call tomorrow, and I am most disappointed by this.
>>
>> Having said that, I hope you have a successful meeting tomorrow. In
>> addition, I would like to say that I hope your recommendations receive the
>> proper attention they deserve, and that in the end, needy new gTLD
>> applicants get the support they need.
>>
>> One issue I would like you to discuss on the call is the timeline for the
>> finalization of the JAS WG report. While I agree that it will help to
>> insist that the AG mention that needy applicants should seek support through
>> the process based the JAS WG report, I think it will help to provide a
>> timeline for the finalization of your report.
>>
>> I'm also troubled by the fact that the GNSO has been rather slow in acting
>> on the JAS WG reports. I fear such a situation might well be construed by
>> many as an effort by the GNSO to scuttle the entire process of seeking ways
>> and means to provide support to needy new gTLD applicants. One important
>> product of such a perception would be that developing countries will feel
>> that ICANN is not sincere when it says (as the Board did in Nairobi last
>> year) that it is interested in launching an inclusive new gTLD program. I
>> need not say that such a perception will also harm ICANN's efforts to
>> strengthen relations with developing countries, and get them on our side on
>> the many issues we'd like to have their support. For this reason, I would
>> like hear what suggestions you have to the board to ensure that progress
>> cannot be hijacked by inaction by any party.
>>
>> Finally, let me say a big "Thank you!!" again to all of you for your
>> tireless and selfless efforts on this matter. Again, I am very sorry I
>> would not be able to join your call, and best wishes in your deliberations.
>>
>> Have a great week, and safe travels to Singapore!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Katim
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff
>> <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The JAS Working Group Call with members of the Board, GAC and GNSO invited,
>> is scheduled on Tuesday, 14 June 2001, at 13:00 UTC. We hope you will be
>> able to join us.
>>
>> PROPOSED AGENDA:
>> Introduction (5 to 10 minutes) Evan Leibovitch - Highlights Second
>> Milestone Report covering short history how it was developed and specific
>> summary points
>> Board/GAC questions/comments (30 to 40 minutes) – JAS WG would like to
>> listen to individual feedback and receive questions/suggestions from GAC and
>> Board members
>> Singapore (5 to 10 minutes) Rafik Dammak/Carlton Samuels – Should there be a
>> public meeting with the JAS WG GAC/Board members during the Singapore ICANN
>> Meeting?
>> As a reminder, it would help the JAS WG to better prepare if you could:
>> Advise on the representatives from the Board and GAC that will be able to
>> attend the teleconference.
>> Send us any questions or comments on the Milestone Report in advance, if
>> possible.
>> Kind regards,
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>>
>> ALAC Chair
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Dial-in details: Tuesday 14 June 2011 at 13:00 UTC
>>
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>>
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