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WG: [council] Re: Reminder / Tuesday 14 June 2011 @ 1300 UTC / JAS WG - Board - GAC proposed June 7 meeting

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  • Subject: WG: [council] Re: Reminder / Tuesday 14 June 2011 @ 1300 UTC / JAS WG - Board - GAC proposed June 7 meeting
  • From: <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:57:13 +0200
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  • Thread-topic: [council] Re: Reminder / Tuesday 14 June 2011 @ 1300 UTC / JAS WG - Board - GAC proposed June 7 meeting

Stéphane,
 
I've put Bill Graham as the 3rd GNSO elected board member on cc.
 
Great message, making the entire process and the GNSO position within this 
process very clear!
 

Kind regards
Wolf-Ulrich 


________________________________

        Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Im Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder
        Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011 10:48
        An: Katim S. Touray; GNSO Council List; Peter Dengate Thrush; Rita 
Rodin Johnston; Bruce Tonkin
        Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; Secretary; Jeremy Beale; Glen de Saint Géry; 
Karla Valente; Carlton Samuels; Rafik Dammak; ALAC EXCOM; Olivier MJ 
Crepin-Leblond
        Betreff: [council] Re: Reminder / Tuesday 14 June 2011 @ 1300 UTC / JAS 
WG - Board - GAC proposed June 7 meeting
        
        
        Hello Katim, 

        This is a personal reaction to your message.
        

        I am, frankly, aghast that a Board member would send a message 
indicating that one of ICANN's SOs has been "slow" in acting on a report, in 
the way you portray the GNSO as having acted with regards to the JAS Milestone 
Report.

        At best, this shows a lack of understanding of the basic process that 
our SO is committed to following, by its own bylaws and by the ICANN bylaws. 
Immediately after the JAS had forwarded its report to us, it was considered by 
the GNSO Council at its next meeting. During that meeting, one of the GNSO 
groups requested the motion be deferred for one meeting. We have a 
long-standing custom of entertaining such requests. Hence the GNSO considered 
the motion again at its June 9 meeting, where I am happy to say that the motion 
(requesting, among other things, that the report be put out for public comment 
asap) was approved unanimously by the Council.

        Regardless of your personal interests, I would think that one of your 
duties as a Board member is to uphold the organisation's bylaws, to respect its 
SOs and to uphold the processes under which they work.

        Implying in your message that the GNSO is attempting to scuttle the 
"entire process of seeking ways... to provide support to needy new gTLD 
applicants" is not only untrue (as our unanimous vote shows), it is also a 
serious disregard of the way ICANN and its SOs work. ICANN's bottom-up process 
is not "pick and choose". Just because, on this issue that you care strongly 
about, you feel that things are not moving fast enough, this does not justify 
false allegations of possible attempts by one SO to "scuttle the process".

        As your message was sent in the context of a call with the Board, the 
GAC, Staff and ALAC, I consider it very public. Hence it could also be 
construed as an attempt to discredit the hard work being done by the community 
of volunteers that the GNSO represents.

        You request suggestions to the Board "to ensure that progress cannot be 
hijacked by inaction by any party" (and this is clearly aimed at the GNSO in 
this case). I would offer one: don't hijack ICANN's core process of working 
through its SOs and ACs towards the Board! I take your message to be a breach 
of that process and would personally appreciate reassurance from you that I am 
mistaken, and that is not what you intend.

        In order to initiate possible discussion on this at both Council and 
Board level, I am copying the GNSO Council, Peter as Chairman of the Board and 
the two GNSO-elected Board members for their possible comments.

        Thanks,

        
        Stéphane



        Le 14 juin 2011 à 01:33, Katim S. Touray a écrit :


                Dear all,
                
                Thanks so much for your invitation to the call.  I certainly 
was looking forward to joining you on the call, but unfortunately, I have a 
serious conflict that only came up earlier today (Mon.)  I am a consultant 
helping prepare a strategic action plan for our Fisheries Department in The 
Gambia, and we were in a workshop all day today discussing a draft plan I 
presented a few weeks back.  We were hoping to go through the entire document 
today, but we could not.  So we agreed to meet again tomorrow to complete our 
review of the draft document.  For this reason, I will not be available to join 
the call tomorrow, and I am most disappointed by this.
                
                Having said that, I hope you have a successful meeting 
tomorrow.  In addition, I would like to say that I hope your recommendations 
receive the proper attention they deserve, and that in the end, needy new gTLD 
applicants get the support they need.
                
                One issue I would like you to discuss on the call is the 
timeline for the finalization of the JAS WG report.  While I agree that it will 
help to insist that the AG mention that needy applicants should seek support 
through the process based the JAS WG report, I think it will help to provide a 
timeline for the finalization of your report.
                
                I'm also troubled by the fact that the GNSO has been rather 
slow in acting on the JAS WG reports.  I fear such a situation might well be 
construed by many as an effort by the GNSO to scuttle the entire process of 
seeking ways and means to provide support to needy new gTLD applicants.  One 
important product of such a perception would be that developing countries will 
feel that ICANN is not sincere when it says (as the Board did in Nairobi last 
year) that it is interested in launching an inclusive new gTLD program.  I need 
not say that such a perception will also harm ICANN's efforts to strengthen 
relations with developing countries, and get them on our side on the many 
issues we'd like to have their support.  For this reason, I would like hear 
what suggestions you have to the board to ensure that progress cannot be 
hijacked by inaction by any party.
                
                Finally, let me say a big "Thank you!!" again to all of you for 
your tireless and selfless efforts on this matter.  Again, I am very sorry I 
would not be able to join your call, and best wishes in your deliberations.
                
                Have a great week, and safe travels to Singapore!
                
                Sincerely,
                
                Katim
                
                
                On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff 
<staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                


                        
                        Dear All,
                        
                        
                        The JAS Working Group Call with members of the Board, 
GAC and GNSO invited, is scheduled on Tuesday, 14 June 2001, at 13:00 UTC. We 
hope you will be able to join us.
                        
                        
                        
                        PROPOSED AGENDA: 

                        *       Introduction (5 to 10 minutes) Evan Leibovitch 
-  Highlights Second Milestone Report covering short history how it was 
developed and specific summary points 

                        

                        *       Board/GAC questions/comments (30 to 40 minutes) 
- JAS WG would like to listen to individual feedback and receive 
questions/suggestions from GAC and Board members 

                        *       Singapore (5 to 10 minutes) Rafik 
Dammak/Carlton Samuels - Should there be a public meeting with the JAS WG 
GAC/Board members during the Singapore ICANN Meeting? 

                        As a reminder, it would help the JAS WG to better 
prepare if you could:
                        

                        1.      Advise on the representatives from the Board 
and GAC that will be able to attend the  teleconference. 
                        2.      Send us any questions or comments on the 
Milestone Report in advance, if possible.

                        Kind regards,
                        

                        Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond

                        ALAC Chair
                        
                        
                        
                        
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