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RE: : [council] Fwd: Follow-up to the second JAS WG report
Mary,
I agree and support your sentiments.
Debbie
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Subject: Re:: [council] Fwd: Follow-up to the second JAS WG report
As I'd indicated on the Council call, I believe it's our duty to correct
factual misrepresentations that we know have taken place by/within the GNSO
community. As such, I support sending the letter as Stephane now has it (i.e.
including Bill's language).
I note also that neither this version nor my earlier attempts to achieve a
similar result are "NCSG positions" as such, although I believe a number of
other NCSG Councilors share my view.
As Jeff points out, we are not in a position to alter what ALAC/At Large did as
part of their process. We are, however, obliged not to permit continued
misperceptions about what happened to circulate amongst our community.
Cheers
Mary
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AW: AW: [council] Fwd: Follow-up to the second JAS WG report
Thanks both, Bill and Stéphane. I think this is acceptable.
Kind regards
Wolf-Ulrich
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Von: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx]
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Mai 2011 14:27
An: William Drake
Cc: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: AW: [council] Fwd: Follow-up to the second JAS WG report
In the interest of clarity, I believe this is the excerpt from the blog
post that Bill is referring to:
Support for Needy Applicants
* ICANN is awaiting guidance from the Joint Applicant Support
(JAS) Working Group who submitted their report directly to the Board over this
past weekend. It's not clear why the GNSO was circumvented from the process, or
how that will be addressed by the Board. While the ICANN Community all seem to
agree there needs to be a mechanism for providing support to needy applicants,
a workable solution needs to be found. I've not read the full report yet, but
am hopeful.
And in the interest of consensus and moving ahead with this, Jeff or
anyone else, is it really such a big problem to add Bill's sentence and send
the message as suggested in my latest draft?
If we are worried about the fact that the Board could get the wrong
idea about the report and not understand that it hasn't been approved yet,
which is the rationale behind us working on this message in the first place,
then it does not seem totally out of place to also address another
misunderstanding that some worry might exist, does it?
Even if we don't all think the misunderstanding exists. Let's not
forget that some of us didn't think that the first misunderstanding (about the
Board not getting the fact that the report hasn't been approved) existed and
yet, they still agreed to send the message.
So my suggestion is that the message as it currently stands
incorporates all these varied POVs and allows us to move forwards.
Thanks,
Stéphane
Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:17, William Drake a écrit :
Hi Wolf-Ulrich
On May 23, 2011, at 2:03 PM, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
could you please provide me with the "false information circulated"?
Sorry, I forget too many things.
I believe we discussed previously the fact that there were people
running around saying that JAS had directly submitted its report to the Board
in some sort of dastardly plot to circumvent the GNSO Council. These rumblings
were then put into words on a widely read blog
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110512_icann_tiptoes_through_political_minefield_new_tlds/
which prompted Alan and other JAS members to issue corrections. I don't know
whether those corrections have been widely read and internalized or if there
are still people out there laboring under misunderstandings. But I would think
the Council would have a self-interest in stating for the record that the
process was followed and it was not dissed.
Best,
Bill
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