Re: AW: [council] Public Meeting and the use of weekends

["Zahid Jamil" <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree. It would be useful to get a clearer picture of wrt the motions over 
the weekend to avoid confusion at the public meeting.





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-----Original Message-----
From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:08:29 
To: 'KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx'<KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>; 
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Subject: Re: AW: [council] Public Meeting and the use of weekends

In addition to talking about motions when the subjects come up, there is time 
on Sat (12-1) to discuss the Council motions.

It is hard during the weekend to have a complete discussion as it is not until 
Constituency day that we really know what our groups think about them and what 
changes we have to have. That is always scheduled as the day before the council 
meeting, so as long as that continues, we will always have a semi-chaotic 
public Council meeting in my opinion.


Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
Vice President, Law & Policy
NeuStar, Inc.
Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx



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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 06:23 AM
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Subject: AW: [council] Public Meeting and the use of weekends

See my comments inserted



Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich



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Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im 
Auftrag von Adrian Kinderis
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. März 2011 11:19
An: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [council] Public Meeting and the use of weekends

All,

I am a big supporter of not repeating the sins of the past (probably because I 
make so many of them).

A few points around the public meeting;


-        What are we doing to ensure we are not debating wording on the fly at 
the meeting?
[WUK: ] First to me it's not a difference between "public" and phone call 
meetings (which are public to a certain extent, too). The public meeting 
shouldn't be seen as a show where perfect work is presented. It's a 2 hours 
working session as usual

        On the one hand I prefer having motions well prepared that we're able 
to achieve results by voting. On the other hand more and more it's going to 
happen that alternate motions are presented where positions of 2 sides are 
fixed and where we can't find majority in both houses either. In those cases I 
would encourage on the fly wording up to the last moment in order to find a 
potential compromise solution rather than going home with nothing.

-        Are we going to make a rule that all motions MUST be locked down prior 
to the meeting?
[WUK: ] I'm open to discuss this (s.a.)

-        If so, have we allowed time to dedicate towards this?

-        How are we catering for public involvement in the meeting itself (this 
has always baffled me)?
[WUK: ] We've rules which our chair is following. But we could talk about 
improvements.

Thanks.

Adrian Kinderis