Re: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore

["Norbert Klein" <nhklein@xxxxxxx>]

We have this game regularly - when there was the terrible "Bali bombings" in 
Indonesia, some people were warned NOT to travel to Cambodia, etc. etc...

Norbert Klein
Phnom Penh / CAMBODIA 


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> Datum: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:29:48 +0900
> Von: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>
> An: Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf <jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore

> Hi Jaime,
> 
> easy question, what media coverage are you you talking about for the case
> of
> Jordan?if you are referring to other Arab countries unrest, that would be
> an
> interesting way of reasoning.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rafik
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/2/18 Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf <jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Rafik,
> >
> >
> >
> > My comments are made on a personal basis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Deaths and constant upheaval in my opinion is sufficient reason to move
> the
> > meeting to a place without such conflicts. Don’t you agree?
> >
> >
> >
> > As for transparency: what is more transparent than the media coverage
> these
> > incidents are getting?
> >
> >
> >
> > *Jaime Wagner*
> >
> > *jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Direto (51) 3219-5955  Cel (51) 8126-0916
> >
> > Geral  (51) 3233-3551  DDG: 0800-703-6366
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> >
> >
> > *De:* owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *Em
> > nome de *Rafik Dammak
> > *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 17 de fevereiro de 2011 15:28
> > *Para:* Stéphane Van Gelder
> > *Cc:* David Olive; Adrian Kinderis; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Assunto:* Re: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Stephane,
> >
> >
> >
> > well I didn't know that a councilor sending email to GNSO list means
> that I
> > am talking on behalf of GNSO council, did I miss something?
> >
> > I think that I has the right to question about the process and how the
> > decision was made, are you denying this to me, Stephane?
> >
> > transparent? it started with rumor and just got the info by surprise, I
> > guess that we may have different definition of transparency?
> >
> > finally, I think that I can still make any assertions and acting freely
> > especially when there is no any given reasons and explanations, I think
> that
> > I didn't infringe rules and I express my concern in appropriate way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Rafik
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/18 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Hi Rafik,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like clarification from you that your assertion that this is a
> > dangerous precedent for A&T is a personal comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems to me that if the meeting team detect a reason for not going
> ahead
> > with a meeting, we should support their initiatives to take action in
> that
> > regard. Failing that, I'm sure ICANN would fall under criticism for NOT
> > taking action.
> >
> >
> >
> > It also seems ICANN is being fully transparent and giving ample warning
> of
> > the change.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am certain we can expect an explanation as to why the change is being
> > made in the near future. I think we have to give staff a chance to
> provide
> > this explanation before starting to make assertions, as a Council, that
> > there is a "dangerous precedent" for anything here...
> >
> >
> >
> > Stéphane
> >
> >
> > Envoyé de mon iPhone4
> >
> >
> > Le 17 févr. 2011 à 16:47, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx> a
> écrit :
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> >
> >
> > how the decision was made and in which information it was based. it is
> > dangerous precedent and for matter of accountability and transparency I
> > would like to see memo and other material that led ICANN board to make
> such
> > decision if they will be published or not. and I don't see any element
> of
> > confidentiality that prevent it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rafik Dammak
> >
> > Twitter: @rafik
> >
> > Linkedin: http://tn.linkedin.com/in/rafikdammak
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/2/18 David Olive <david.olive@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Adrian and Council Members:
> >
> >
> >
> >  The ICANN June meeting will not take place in Jordan.   A decision was
> > made and the Jordanian host has already been contacted about this
> change.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a day or so, there will be a formal ICANN announcement concerning
> this
> > matter as well information on the location for the next meeting .
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,       David
> >
> >
> >
> > David A. Olive
> > Vice President, Policy Development Support
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> > 1101 New York Avenue, NW - Suite 930 - Washington, D.C.    20005
> > Office: 202.570.7126      Mobile:  202.341.3611
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > *Date: *Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:55:43 -0800
> > *To: *"council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > *Subject: *[council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore
> >
> >
> >
> > The latest rumours are that we’ll be heading to Singapore next folks
> given
> > the “unrest” in the Middle East.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Adrian Kinderis*
> >
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> >