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RES: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore



My comments are made on a personal basis.


Deaths and constant upheaval in my opinion is sufficient reason to move the 
meeting to a place without such conflicts. Don’t you agree? 


As for transparency: what is more transparent than the media coverage these 
incidents are getting?


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De: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Em nome 
de Rafik Dammak
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 17 de fevereiro de 2011 15:28
Para: Stéphane Van Gelder
Cc: David Olive; Adrian Kinderis; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Assunto: Re: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore


Hi Stephane,


well I didn't know that a councilor sending email to GNSO list means that I am 
talking on behalf of GNSO council, did I miss something?

I think that I has the right to question about the process and how the decision 
was made, are you denying this to me, Stephane?

transparent? it started with rumor and just got the info by surprise, I guess 
that we may have different definition of transparency?

finally, I think that I can still make any assertions and acting freely 
especially when there is no any given reasons and explanations, I think that I 
didn't infringe rules and I express my concern in appropriate way. 





2011/2/18 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>

Hi Rafik,


I would like clarification from you that your assertion that this is a 
dangerous precedent for A&T is a personal comment.


It seems to me that if the meeting team detect a reason for not going ahead 
with a meeting, we should support their initiatives to take action in that 
regard. Failing that, I'm sure ICANN would fall under criticism for NOT taking 


It also seems ICANN is being fully transparent and giving ample warning of the 


I am certain we can expect an explanation as to why the change is being made in 
the near future. I think we have to give staff a chance to provide this 
explanation before starting to make assertions, as a Council, that there is a 
"dangerous precedent" for anything here...



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Le 17 févr. 2011 à 16:47, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

Hi David,


how the decision was made and in which information it was based. it is 
dangerous precedent and for matter of accountability and transparency I would 
like to see memo and other material that led ICANN board to make such decision 
if they will be published or not. and I don't see any element of 
confidentiality that prevent it.





Rafik Dammak

Twitter: @rafik

Linkedin: http://tn.linkedin.com/in/rafikdammak

2011/2/18 David Olive <david.olive@xxxxxxxxx>

Adrian and Council Members:


 The ICANN June meeting will not take place in Jordan.   A decision was made 
and the Jordanian host has already been contacted about this change.  


In a day or so, there will be a formal ICANN announcement concerning this 
matter as well information on the location for the next meeting .


Regards,       David


David A. Olive
Vice President, Policy Development Support
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
1101 New York Avenue, NW - Suite 930 - Washington, D.C.    20005
Office: 202.570.7126      Mobile:  202.341.3611


From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:55:43 -0800
To: "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [council] Swap out Jordon for Singapore


The latest rumours are that we’ll be heading to Singapore next folks given the 
“unrest” in the Middle East.



Adrian Kinderis




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