RE: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings

[Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

They can't post straight to the list?

Adrian Kinderis


From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:00 PM
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Council
Subject: Re: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings

On this topic, FYI, I am expecting an update or response from Staff in the next 
few days.

I will send this on to the Council list when I get it.

Stéphane
Le 24 janv. 2011 à 18:12, carlos dionisio aguirre a écrit :


Dear Kristina:
The benefit for participate like sponsor must be measured by who want to be 
sponsor, not by ICANN.
ICANN (or your financial manager) must measure and evaluate, the absense of 
sponsors. The situation is totally different and contrary.  The rules of 
Economy are mandatories on that. Each one play their game.
On the other side and in the instance to somebody think, that ICANN must to 
have registration fees: Im totally against on that, because:
ICANN have a underlying principles, like participation and bottom up process, 
appart to be a" non profit organization". Where do you include this, when you 
decide to make that the people pay for participate?
Yes, I know (perhaps the response is) the people can participate remotely. But 
you & me know that is not the same.
ICANN model is good for me, if you make business with ICANN and have incomes 
for this businesses, and you want to have publicity within the meetings, so, 
you must pay for that.
Im not completely sure, but Is not mandatory to be sponsor. Am I wrong?
If you, like a Internet Industry company, want to make your product or service 
be visible, have no much more options. publicity, and pay to be sponsor. How 
Much ? The company decide if it appropriate or not.
That means: free market. ICANN fix the price to be sponsor, and the candidate 
to be sponsor must decide if will be or not.
After that, there are many other considerations to do, but I think this is the 
essential.
>From my humble point of view .

Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
former ALAC member by LACRALO
Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
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From: krosette@xxxxxxx<mailto:krosette@xxxxxxx>
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:50:34 -0500
Subject: RE: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings
It seems to me that if we're going to be talking about sponsorship, we should 
also be talking about whether it's time for ICANN to start charging a 
registration fee to attend the meetings.  I was dumbstruck when I attended my 
first ICANN meeting and found out that there's no charge to attend.  Every 
other meeting I attend has a registration fee and some are quite high ($750+).

Let me be clear:  I'm NOT suggesting that ICANN should start charging a 
registration fee so that the meetings are revenue generators.  I do think, 
though, that it's time to examine whether the costs of the meetings are high 
enough so that it makes sense to charge some fee that can be used to offset 
those costs.  In addition, the more ICANN can recover through registration 
fees, the less money it needs from sponsors.

As to the sponsorship fee, the prices and "benefits" are at the point where 
there's an optics issue, IMHO.

K

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From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:40 AM
To: Adrian Kinderis
Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings
I see no reason why this could not be discussed here.

Is there anyone from Staff that can address Adrian's questions?

As far as the Council taking a position on this, what do others think? Is there 
a desire to work on drafting a letter on this topic?

Stéphane
Le 23 janv. 2011 à 09:49, Adrian Kinderis a écrit :

Stephane,
I am not sure of the correct forum to bring this up however I do so here...
I have been contacted by a number of my constituents regarding the severe 
raising of pricing of the sponsorship packages for the upcoming San Francisco 
meeting.
In most cases prices within the different levels of sponsorship packages have 
doubled and it seem that ICANN is trying to secure a few sponsors at $500,000. 
This seems, to me at least, just plain crazy!
My organization has sponsored on a number of occasions and are potentially 
again this time. However I am concerned of these changes and the impact they 
may have.
The reason I bring it up in this forum is because I wonder if this is something 
the Council could take a position of. We all benefit from a healthy 
participation of sponsors. Without them the meetings would not exist. However, 
I believe ICANN is being just plain greedy and this could potentially harm 
future meetings.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Regards,
Adrian Kinderis