Re: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

On this topic, FYI, I am expecting an update or response from Staff in the next 
few days.

I will send this on to the Council list when I get it.

Stéphane

Le 24 janv. 2011 à 18:12, carlos dionisio aguirre a écrit :

> Dear Kristina: 
> The benefit for participate like sponsor must be measured by who want to be 
> sponsor, not by ICANN.
> ICANN (or your financial manager) must measure and evaluate, the absense of 
> sponsors. The situation is totally different and contrary.  The rules of 
> Economy are mandatories on that. Each one play their game.
> On the other side and in the instance to somebody think, that ICANN must to 
> have registration fees: Im totally against on that, because:
> ICANN have a underlying principles, like participation and bottom up process, 
> appart to be a" non profit organization". Where do you include this, when you 
> decide to make that the people pay for participate?
> Yes, I know (perhaps the response is) the people can participate remotely. 
> But you & me know that is not the same.
> ICANN model is good for me, if you make business with ICANN and have incomes 
> for this businesses, and you want to have publicity within the meetings, so, 
> you must pay for that. 
> Im not completely sure, but Is not mandatory to be sponsor. Am I wrong? 
> If you, like a Internet Industry company, want to make your product or 
> service be visible, have no much more options. publicity, and pay to be 
> sponsor. How Much ? The company decide if it appropriate or not. 
> That means: free market. ICANN fix the price to be sponsor, and the candidate 
> to be sponsor must decide if will be or not. 
> After that, there are many other considerations to do, but I think this is 
> the essential. 
> From my humble point of view .
> 
> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
> former ALAC member by LACRALO
> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
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> http://ar.ageiadensi.org 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: krosette@xxxxxxx
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:50:34 -0500
> Subject: RE: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings
> 
> It seems to me that if we're going to be talking about sponsorship, we should 
> also be talking about whether it's time for ICANN to start charging a 
> registration fee to attend the meetings.  I was dumbstruck when I attended my 
> first ICANN meeting and found out that there's no charge to attend.  Every 
> other meeting I attend has a registration fee and some are quite high 
> ($750+). 
>  
> Let me be clear:  I'm NOT suggesting that ICANN should start charging a 
> registration fee so that the meetings are revenue generators.  I do think, 
> though, that it's time to examine whether the costs of the meetings are high 
> enough so that it makes sense to charge some fee that can be used to offset 
> those costs.  In addition, the more ICANN can recover through registration 
> fees, the less money it needs from sponsors. 
>  
> As to the sponsorship fee, the prices and "benefits" are at the point where 
> there's an optics issue, IMHO.
>  
> K
> 
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:40 AM
> To: Adrian Kinderis
> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings
> 
> I see no reason why this could not be discussed here.
> 
> Is there anyone from Staff that can address Adrian's questions?
> 
> As far as the Council taking a position on this, what do others think? Is 
> there a desire to work on drafting a letter on this topic?
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 23 janv. 2011 à 09:49, Adrian Kinderis a écrit :
> 
> Stephane,
> I am not sure of the correct forum to bring this up however I do so here…
> I have been contacted by a number of my constituents regarding the severe 
> raising of pricing of the sponsorship packages for the upcoming San Francisco 
> meeting.
> In most cases prices within the different levels of sponsorship packages have 
> doubled and it seem that ICANN is trying to secure a few sponsors at 
> $500,000. This seems, to me at least, just plain crazy!
> My organization has sponsored on a number of occasions and are potentially 
> again this time. However I am concerned of these changes and the impact they 
> may have.
> The reason I bring it up in this forum is because I wonder if this is 
> something the Council could take a position of. We all benefit from a healthy 
> participation of sponsors. Without them the meetings would not exist. 
> However, I believe ICANN is being just plain greedy and this could 
> potentially harm future meetings.
> Your thoughts would be appreciated.
> Regards,
> Adrian Kinderis
> 
> 
>