Re: [council] Chairs' List and Chairs' Meeting in SF

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Tim, where do you draw the line between what's part of the normal day-to-day 
management of the Council and what needs to be voted on through a motion?

I do not know how to classify "what we have for lunch" on the one hand and 
"what mailing list we should be creating" on the other?

Stéphane

Le 20 janv. 2011 à 19:14, Tim Ruiz a écrit :

> 
> I agree in part with Rosemary and Bill, that there was not enough time
> between decisions on these issues for everyone to voice their opinion,
> or even give it much thought. But I think the real problem is because
> the appropriate way for the Council to act is through resolution. The
> straw polling of the Council for these kinds of things just does not
> work.
> 
> A straw poll on what two main dishes we want for a lunch, or what kind
> of hat to present a departing Councilor is fine. But otherwise, I
> believe we should act through resolution only. That will alleviate any
> confusion as to whether this or that actually had the support of the
> Council, and it makes sure that all Councilors have the opportunity to
> be fully informed and appropriately consider the decision.
> 
> Regarding the two recent issues, I believe there is still time for such
> appropriate action. Regardless of how I feel about these issues, I do
> believe the will of the majority of the Council should be the deciding
> factor. Acting through resolution will ensure that.
> 
> When time does not allow for acting through resolution, I don't think
> there is any one right way to deal with it except that if pursued there
> should be no representation that it was a Council action or the
> Council's will in any way. For example, Stephane doesn't need our
> permission to arrive two days early to SF and chat with other attendees
> even if they happen to be Chairs of other SO/ACs, but if he does he
> cannot do so "AS" Chair of the Council or in any way imply that his
> actions or statements represent the Council. It would concern me that
> ICANN would likely end up paying for two additional nights. If it were
> me, I would not let that happen. I guess that is for Stephane to decide.
> 
> In regards to the list, there is no reason that it cannot wait for
> appropriate resolution and action of the Council.
> 
> Tim
> 
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