Re: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR

["Zahid Jamil" <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>]

I am not sure how the rules will apply in exceptional circumstances.  

The Chatham House rules require non attribution in general (somewhat like the 
MAG) so not sure  how would this rule be implemented ONLY in exceptional 
circumstances and how this would be communicated in advance.  How will this 
work?

Hope I haven't misunderstood the amendment.




Sincerely,

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-----Original Message-----
From: William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:18:21 
To: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Gomes, Chuck<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>; 
<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ispcp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR

what about Rafik's amendment, submitted on behalf of NCSG:


> I would like to submit this following edit regarding this part :
> 
> "Obviously, any such communications would need to respect reasonable
> restrictions like the review teams’ adherence to the Chatham House rule, and 
> the SO/ACs should be expected to exercise prudence and to only make use of 
> the opportunity when it is necessary to support the teams and/or convey major 
> concerns." 
> 
> with that one
> 
> "It is expected that any communications or other input sought and received 
> will be provided in good faith, and that SOs/ACs will exercise prudence and 
> make use of the opportunity when it is necessary to support the teams and/or 
> convey major concerns. In exceptional circumstances, a SO or AC, the review 
> teams or members thereof may consider it necessary to subject such 
> communications or other input to reasonable restrictions such as the Chatham 
> House rule, and where this is the case, the relevant parties to the affected 
> communication or input shall, as far as possible, be informed in advance."

On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:

> Yes
> 
> Le 27 janv. 2010 à 21:58, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
> 
>> 
>> I would accept this as a friendly amendment.  Stephan, as the seconder of 
>> the motion, would you also accept it as friendly?
>> 
>> Glen - please add this amendment to the motion.
>> 
>> Chuck 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx] 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:36 PM
>>> To: Gomes, Chuck; william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
>>> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: ispcp@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: AW: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
>>> 
>>> On behalf of the ISPCP constituency I'd like to suggest the 
>>> following edit regarding "Support Teams" (ST).
>>> The draft amendment attached is targeted to provide more 
>>> flexibility to the Review Teams in order to let themselves 
>>> organize their support teams rather than to constitute 
>>> support teams in advance. 
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to a fruitful discussion Wolf-Ulrich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 23:35
>>> An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
>>> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: ispcp@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Betreff: RE: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
>>> 
>>> Thanks Wolf.  If you could propose a suggested edit, it would 
>>> be very helpful.
>>> 
>>> Chuck 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>>> KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:36 PM
>>>> To: william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Cc: ispcp@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: AW: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Following a consultation within the ISPCP constituency I'd like to 
>>>> address the creation of "Support Teams" (ST). There must be a clear 
>>>> distinction between the RTs and potential STs in order to avoid STs 
>>>> emerging to "shadow" RTs. So the composition of the ST pools has 
>>>> carefully to be taken into consideration or should even be 
>>> regulated.  
>>>> If applicable this should be expressed in the council response.
>>>> 
>>>> Apart from that the ISPCP constituency endorses the draft response.
>>>> 
>>>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von William Drake
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Januar 2010 16:40
>>>> An: GNSO Council List
>>>> Betreff: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Attached please find the drafting team's proposed response to the 
>>>> draft proposal on the Affirmation Reviews Requirements and 
>>>> Implementation Processes, for discussion with our 
>>> respective SGs and 
>>>> in the Council.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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