Re: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and Sunday breakfast
I am in full agreement with this point of view. Stéphane Le 13 janv. 2010 à 22:15, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : > I'm not attending so I'll say this for what it is worth... > > Why not make it a "gripe" session? What are you all afraid of. > > I thought last time there was a healthy debate about perspectives and > positions and it was a good opportunity to ask direct questions to fellow > Councillors. > > Sure, "gripe" may not be the right word but, a session to "air grievances" is > necessary and valid in my opinion. > > Otherwise, why have the session? It will just degenerate into a discussion > about new gTLD's or WhoIs. There are plenty of avenues for that. > > I would say that, as Mary says, you have leadership and guidance from the > Chairs and Vice Chairs. We have a healthy respect for each other. I am not > sure why there is a concern. > > If you have problems with participating in an open discussion don't > participate - as a number of members didn't last time. > > As one that was involved in the idea's inception I'd certainly not like to > see it diluted into just another session to cover outstanding topics.... > > Adrian Kinderis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer > Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2010 3:45 AM > To: Stéphane Van Gelder > Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and > Sunday breakfast > > > Stéphane Van Gelder wrote: >> Thanks Debbie. >> >> If anyone is opposed to the breakfast, please let either Glen or myself know >> as soon as you can. > > I support a breakfast so long as it's not a "grievances" session. > > --Wendy > >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Stéphane >> >> Le 13 janv. 2010 à 16:19, <HughesDeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit : >> >>> Stéphane, >>> Breakfast and dinner are a great idea! >>> Thanks for working on this. >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> Debra Y. Hughes, Senior Counsel >>> American Red Cross >>> >>> Office of the General Counsel >>> 2025 E Street, NW >>> Washington, D.C. 20006 >>> Phone: (202) 303-5356 >>> Fax: (202) 303-0143 >>> HughesDeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:18 AM >>> To: Caroline Greer >>> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and >>> Sunday breakfast >>> >>> Thanks Caroline and Wolf for your quick responses. >>> >>> To be honest, I think the Sat dinner is a given. We all enjoyed the Seoul >>> one and I never heard anyone say we shouldn't do another one. Plus it was a >>> pay-your-own-way event so really, there shouldn't be much problem with this. >>> >>> Glen has already found a possible venue and I am going to make an executive >>> decision ;) to put it on the agenda. If anyone objects within the next >>> couple of days, we can always look at this again. >>> >>> The breakfast is the one I am much less sure of. As a reminder, this was >>> kind of intended to be an informal discussion between ourselves to help >>> anyone get anything they wanted off their chests. In Seoul, this was >>> organised in one of the meeting rooms. Does the Council feel we should do >>> this again for Kenya? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Stéphane >>> >>> Le 13 janv. 2010 à 12:56, Caroline Greer a écrit : >>> >>>> Stéphane, >>>> >>>> Being a 'newbie' to the group, I would welcome any opportunity for an >>>> informal get-together with colleagues before the meetings proper. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Caroline. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: 13 January 2010 11:43 >>>> To: stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: AW: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and >>>> Sunday breakfast >>>> >>>> Stéphane, >>>> >>>> I support the dinner which gives more opportunity for unofficisl talks. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Wolf-Ulrich >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im >>>> Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder >>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 09:01 >>>> An: GNSO Council >>>> Betreff: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and >>>> Sunday breakfast >>>> >>>> Dear Councillors, >>>> >>>> I am currently working with Glen on our agenda for the Kenya meeting. >>>> >>>> As you may recall, in Seoul we had an unofficial dinner on the meeting's >>>> first Saturday and there we also a Council breakfast on the following >>>> Sunday morning. >>>> >>>> For Kenya, the question of these events remains undecided and we are >>>> therefore not sure whether we should include them in the agenda or not. >>>> Our understanding is that there is broad support within the Council for >>>> the Saturday dinner, less certain support for the Sunday breakfast. >>>> >>>> What do people think? Should we plan for both the Saturday dinner and >>>> Sunday breakfast, one and not the other, none of the above? >>>> >>>> Stéphane >>>> >> > > > -- > Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx > phone: +1.914.374.0613 > Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School > Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University > http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html > http://www.chillingeffects.org/ > https://www.torproject.org/ Attachment:
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