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Re: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and Sunday breakfast


I am in full agreement with this point of view.

Stéphane

Le 13 janv. 2010 à 22:15, Adrian Kinderis a écrit :

> I'm not attending so I'll say this for what it is worth...
> 
> Why not make it a "gripe" session? What are you all afraid of.
> 
> I thought last time there was a healthy debate about perspectives and 
> positions and it was a good opportunity to ask direct questions to fellow 
> Councillors.
> 
> Sure, "gripe" may not be the right word but, a session to "air grievances" is 
> necessary and valid in my opinion.
> 
> Otherwise, why have the session? It will just degenerate into a discussion 
> about new gTLD's or WhoIs. There are plenty of avenues for that.
> 
> I would say that, as Mary says, you have leadership and guidance from the 
> Chairs and Vice Chairs. We have a healthy respect for each other. I am not 
> sure why there is a concern.
> 
> If you have problems with participating in an open discussion don't 
> participate - as a number of members didn't last time.
> 
> As one that was involved in the idea's inception I'd certainly not like to 
> see it diluted into just another session to cover outstanding topics.... 
> 
> Adrian Kinderis
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
> Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2010 3:45 AM
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder
> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and 
> Sunday breakfast
> 
> 
> Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>> Thanks Debbie.
>> 
>> If anyone is opposed to the breakfast, please let either Glen or myself know 
>> as soon as you can.
> 
> I support a breakfast so long as it's not a "grievances" session.
> 
> --Wendy
> 
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> Le 13 janv. 2010 à 16:19, <HughesDeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Stéphane,
>>> Breakfast and dinner are a great idea!
>>> Thanks for working on this.
>>> Debbie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Debra Y. Hughes, Senior Counsel
>>> American Red Cross
>>> 
>>> Office of the General Counsel 
>>> 2025 E Street, NW 
>>> Washington, D.C. 20006 
>>> Phone: (202) 303-5356 
>>> Fax: (202) 303-0143
>>> HughesDeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>> Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:18 AM
>>> To: Caroline Greer
>>> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and 
>>> Sunday breakfast
>>> 
>>> Thanks Caroline and Wolf for your quick responses.
>>> 
>>> To be honest, I think the Sat dinner is a given. We all enjoyed the Seoul 
>>> one and I never heard anyone say we shouldn't do another one. Plus it was a 
>>> pay-your-own-way event so really, there shouldn't be much problem with this.
>>> 
>>> Glen has already found a possible venue and I am going to make an executive 
>>> decision ;) to put it on the agenda. If anyone objects within the next 
>>> couple of days, we can always look at this again. 
>>> 
>>> The breakfast is the one I am much less sure of. As a reminder, this was 
>>> kind of intended to be an informal discussion between ourselves to help 
>>> anyone get anything they wanted off their chests. In Seoul, this was 
>>> organised in one of the meeting rooms. Does the Council feel we should do 
>>> this again for Kenya?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Stéphane
>>> 
>>> Le 13 janv. 2010 à 12:56, Caroline Greer a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Stéphane,
>>>> 
>>>> Being a 'newbie' to the group, I would welcome any opportunity for an 
>>>> informal get-together with colleagues before the meetings proper. 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Caroline.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>>>> On Behalf Of KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: 13 January 2010 11:43
>>>> To: stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: AW: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and 
>>>> Sunday breakfast
>>>> 
>>>> Stéphane,
>>>> 
>>>> I support the dinner which gives more opportunity for unofficisl talks.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> 
>>>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im 
>>>> Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 09:01
>>>> An: GNSO Council
>>>> Betreff: [council] Kenya Agenda questions: Saturday Council dinner and 
>>>> Sunday breakfast
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Councillors,
>>>> 
>>>> I am currently working with Glen on our agenda for the Kenya meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> As you may recall, in Seoul we had an unofficial dinner on the meeting's 
>>>> first Saturday and there we also a Council breakfast on the following 
>>>> Sunday morning.
>>>> 
>>>> For Kenya, the question of these events remains undecided and we are 
>>>> therefore not sure whether we should include them in the agenda or not. 
>>>> Our understanding is that there is broad support within the Council for 
>>>> the Saturday dinner, less certain support for the Sunday breakfast.
>>>> 
>>>> What do people think? Should we plan for both the Saturday dinner and 
>>>> Sunday breakfast, one and not the other, none of the above?
>>>> 
>>>> Stéphane
>>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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