RE: [council] Reminder: Re:  NCA input to House placement
Likewise I will try to be available if this needs more discussions.
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:49 AM
To: Avri Doria
Cc: Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Reminder: Re:  NCA input to House placement
thanks Avri for the reminder.
I am available for exchanging comments and ideas about this if GNSO Council
Houses and/or their respective Stakeholder Groups think this is needed.
2009/10/5 Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
I wanted to remind those in the Constituencies/SGs that the council
resolution regarding transition call for this activity to be completed by 7
c. Taking into consideration the input from the NCAs, if any, both GNSO
Council Houses and/or their respective Stakeholder Groups should attempt to
reach agreement on the seating for each of the three NCAs for the first year
of the new bicameral Council and communicate the results to the Council not
later than 7 October 2009.
with a fail safe of:
d. If the GNSO Council Houses and/or their respective Stakeholder Groups are
unable to reach agreement, then the new, inexperienced NCA will take the
non-voting Council seat and random selection will be used to assign the
other two NCAs to Houses before the Council meeting on 8 October 2009.
Note: If I need to do a random selection, I will use the Wednesday 7 Oct
Powerball Lottery number (http://www.powerball.com/powerball/pb_numbers.asp)
as seed to the IETF RFC3797 random selection algorithm with the names
ordered alphabetic by first name.; ie. Olga, Terry. Doing so, however, will
result in at least one of the NCAs being given an assignment that is
contrary to their expressed intersts.
On 29 Sep 2009, at 08:32, Avri Doria wrote:
This note is to notify the council that I have worked with the 3 NCAs of
the new council and have come up with their input to the council regarding
their recommendation for assigning NCA Council Seats as required by the
second bullet. This was an action that needed to be completed by 30
As a reminder, the Transition plan approved at the last meeting contains the
For the period starting on 28 October 2009 and continuing only through the
2010 ICANN Annual Meeting, the following procedure will be used to assign
NCAs to Council seats:
. ICANN Staff should ensure that a Statement of Interest is received
from Andrey Kolesnikov and sent to the Council not later than 30 September
. Not later than 30 September 2009, new and existing NCAs will make
best efforts to collaborate and provide their input to the GNSO Council
regarding their recommendations for assigning NCA Council seats. Such input
should include any seating assignments that any of the NCAs would
individually be uncomfortable taking along with their reasons.
. Taking into consideration the input from the NCAs, if any, both
GNSO Council Houses and/or their respective Stakeholder Groups should
attempt to reach agreement on the seating for each of the three NCAs for the
first year of the new bicameral Council and communicate the results to the
Council not later than 7 October 2009.
. If the GNSO Council Houses and/or their respective Stakeholder
Groups are unable to reach agreement, then the new, inexperienced NCA will
take the non-voting Council seat and random selection will be used to assign
the other two NCAs to Houses before the Council meeting on 8 October 2009.
. In the meeting scheduled for 8 October 2009, the Council will
acknowledge the results of this process and confirm that it was properly
In terms of the first point Glen is currently working with Andrey to get the
required SOI completed
In terms of the second point, we have recorded the output of the NCAs and
make the following recommendations as input to further discussions:
Contracted Parties House - Andrey
Non contracted Parties House - Terry
Independent non-voting - Olga
The Process we followed:
- First I created a doodle where each of them could indicate their
preference. This was one of the 'yes-green, maybe-yellow, no-red' doodles.
I set this up as hidden poll, so that consideration for each other's choices
would not stand in the way of each of them stating, in the first instance,
their personal preference.
The idea was that once we saw the individual preferences, they could then
negotiate a final list based on knowing what each other really wanted, or
was willing, to do.
I also made myself available for any of them who wanted to get more
background information, but no one took me up on the offer.
Note: I also told them that if they hated the idea of the poll we could
start in another way, but I was looking for a way to reach a conclusion
- The individual preferences, a snapshot of which is included below, showed
that there was one possible solution from the beginning which would avoid
any of them having to take a position they did not want.
The results (depicted below):
Olga and Andrey were both interested in the Contracted Parties House
All three of them were willing to be placed in the Non-Contracted parties
Terry indicated he was only willing to be placed the Non-contracted parties
Olga was the only one indicating willingness to take the Independent non
I suggested this as a starting position for their discussions, but also
suggested they could ignore it, if they desired.
- In the following conversation they all accepted the proposal, each for
his/her own reasons:
Andrey felt that his experience in managing a zone with 2.3 M domains, which
compatible to a .COM environment, made him feel comfortable going into the
Contracted Parties house.
Terry felt that based on his experience in industry the Non Contracted
parties house was the most appropriate.
Olga was willing to take any of the roles, though she had a preference for
the Contracted parties.
- It is now up to the houses, to decide if they are willing to accept the
input of the NCAs. If not, they will need to come up with another proposal.
I invite the NCA's to add any comments to this they feel would be useful to
the Houses in making their decision, but am not in any way obliging them to
I should mention that Andrey has been added to this list (as all newly
appointed/elected council members will be), and I welcome him. Of course
the incoming council members are observers on the list until 28 October. In
keep with our normal processes, I invite the new council members to
participate on the list as fully as they feel ready to with voting and the
making of motions being the only exceptions.
Olga Cavalli, Dr. Ing.