RE: [council] Motion on Whois studies

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sure Norbert.

First of all let me make it clear that I am NOT at all suggesting that
there is 'minimal chance to move towards asking for funding information
on studies'.  All I am saying is that I do not believe that we will be
ready to make a decision in Cairo regarding identification of studies
for which we want staff to prepare cost extimates. 

I think you will see when the RyC submits its analysis and
recommendations on 29 October that we also believe there is value in
pursuing some Whois studies further.  And I also believe that it won't
take a long time to identify the studies for further work; I just don't
believe we will be able to finalize that in Cairo.

I personally spent a lot of time on this topic in the past couple weeks
and it convinced me that it is fairly complicated to do analytically. At
the same time, I think that the RyC will be able to reach agreement on
our analysis and recommendations by 29 October and I am hopeful that our
contribution will facilitate the Council work on this in the next month
or so.

Chuck  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norbert Klein [mailto:nhklein@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:25 AM
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: Avri Doria; Council GNSO
> Subject: Re: [council] Motion on Whois studies
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> could you please elaborate a bit why you think there is only 
> a minimal chance to move towards asking for funding 
> information on studies?
> 
> It is surely useful to get a more detailed analysis with 
> recommendations for studies in future, but I thought as a 
> starting step it would not be so difficult for staff to 
> identify past time/funds used for studies? And then the 
> additions for non-staff time/money dedicated to past studies 
> could be added as estimates to get a general idea.
> 
> Even the very detailed analysis the RyC is proposing would 
> have to start with the same basic initial survey, I think. 
> And we would have a first - tough interim - collection of 
> data sooner, before we might embark on further studies. I 
> understood that was Avri's intention.
> 
> But maybe my assumptions are wrong?
> 
> 
> Norbert
> 
> On Sunday, 19 October 2008 20:11:04 Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> 
> > My opinion: there is very minimal chance that 'we would be 
> in position 
> > to take a vote on a motion to request funding information 
> on studies'.
> >
> > As I shared in our 16 Oct meeting, the RyC is in the process of 
> > finalizing a very detailed analysis with recommendations 
> for studies 
> > to pursue further and we plan to submit that to the Council 
> on 29 October.
> > It is possible that other constituencies or advisory groups or 
> > individuals will have submitted recommendations by that 
> time as well.
> > So I think our time in Cairo will be focused on reviewing and 
> > discussing those submissions and mapping out an approach for 
> > identifying studies for which we want Staff to prepare cost 
> estimates.  
> > But I believe it will be a fairly involved process that we 
> will not be 
> > able to complete until after Cairo.
> >
> > I do agree with assigning 'prominence to the item on the 
> schedule' but 
> > I do not believe we will be ready to make a decision.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:38 PM
> > > To: Council GNSO
> > > Subject: [council] Motion on Whois studies
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > While putting together the agenda for the Cairo week, I was 
> > > wondering whether there was any chance we would be in position to 
> > > take a vote on a motion to request funding information on studies.
> > >
> > > If so, we need to have a draft of the motion on the table 
> as soon as 
> > > possible for people to consider and discuss with their 
> > > constituencies.  I know a lot of work is still ongoing in some of 
> > > the constituencies, but this activity has been pending a 
> while and 
> > > we are overdue on our schedule.  At the very least we need a 
> > > definitive view of where we are in the process and a 
> clear schedule 
> > > of when we will take the next step.
> > >
> > > I have assigned some prominence to the item on the 
> schedule in the 
> > > expectation that we work to do it.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > a.
> 
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