RE: [council] finalizing motions in advance of voting on them

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It seems to me that it up to each of us as Constituency representatives
to make that decision and request delay. That is what we in the RyC have
been doing for years.
 
You don't think that adding a month to many motions and maybe more than
one month is inefficient?
 
Chuck


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        From: Robin Gross [mailto:robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:48 AM
        To: Gomes, Chuck
        Cc: philip.sheppard@xxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [council] finalizing motions in advance of voting
on them
        
        
        It isn't always clear what is a "material" change.  What may be
a "material" change to one constituency may be "immaterial" to another.
And even the crafting of immaterial changes takes up public forum time.

        I don't think it paralizes us because it only means we have to
put the vote off to the next meeting if there will be changes to it in
the days before the vote.   And actually it would give us an incentive
to get our act together sooner.   I think the lack of confidence in the
GNSO from word-smithing on the fly far outweighs the inconvenience of
putting off a vote to the next meeting.

        Robin


        On Jun 26, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:



                Couldn't this paralize us?  I agree if there is a
material change where
                we need to go back to our constituencies.

                Chuck 


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                        Subject: Re: [council] finalizing motions in
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                        I fully support this call


                                I'd to request that whatever motions are
up for counsel vote are 
                                finalized at least several days in
advance of voting on 

                        them, meaning 

                                no last minute amendments - friendly or
not.

                                I'm concerned about the tendency to
amend the motion during 

                        the public 

                                counsel meeting and we end up wasting
GNSO public forum 

                        time crafting 

                                language on the fly (and this does not
instill confidence in the 
                                counsel from the community).

                                Besides appearing silly, and more
importantly, last minute 

                        amendments 

                                do not give us a chance to discuss the
motion that will be voted on 
                                with our constituencies.  It is
important that we know exactly what 
                                will be voted on in advance so we can
get key feedback from our 
                                constituencies.

                                Thanks,
                                Robin


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        IP JUSTICE
        Robin Gross, Executive Director
        1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
        p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
        w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx