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RE: [council] Draft reply Council on GNSO reform
- To: "Gomes,Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [council] Draft reply Council on GNSO reform
- From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:03:44 -0700
- Cc: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>, Council GNSO <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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<html><body><div>I'm not sure I am ready to jump on to the unanimous bandwagon
on this one. Conferring with my Constituency peers.</div>
<div><BR><BR>Tim <BR><BR></div>
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solid" webmail="1">-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: RE: [council]
Draft reply Council on GNSO reform<BR>From: "Gomes, Chuck"
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Mon, November 26, 2007 1:35 pm<BR>To:
"Avri Doria" <avri@xxxxxxx>, "Council
GNSO"<BR><council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=228233219-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So we are sayiing "we unanimously partially support the
recommendation"? Sounds a little confusing to me. At the same time,
note that in my response to Philip just sent a couple minutes ago, I suggested
"Qualified Support". I think it may be an improvement to say "we
unanimously support a recommendation with qualifications".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Chuck Gomes</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Avri
Doria<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 26, 2007 10:11 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Council
GNSO<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [council] Draft reply Council on GNSO
reform<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi,
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<DIV>I thought that the partial support meant that we, as a group,
had reservations that were expressed in the included statements.</DIV>
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<DIV>In the preface we say the the level os support an unanimous. So
partial support does not refer to the level of support in the council but
rather to the degree to which we unanimously support
the recommendation as written in the BWG draft.</DIV>
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<DIV>a.</DIV>
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<DIV>On 26 nov 2007, at 15.57, Gomes, Chuck wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks again Philip. This is looking very good in my
opinion, but I still have a four areas of concern.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><U>3. All policy is
developed in working groups in place of task forces of
Council.</U></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language:
AR-SA"><U></U></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I still don't understand what positive elements in the
current task force model would be excluded in a working group model. I
would appreciate some explanation here. For the moment at least, I think
we should say "Support", not "Partial Support". I have no problem
emphasizing the need to include flexibility in the WG model but do not support
the suggestion to include 'task forces'.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><U>3.2 Steps to improve
effectiveness/ efficiency: proposals for running working
groups.</U></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Why only "Partial Support" for this? I think we
should say "Support".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;
mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><U>4.1b Amend the bylaws
to clarify the limited set of “consensus policies” upon which the
GNSO may make change.</U></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think we should say "Support", not "Partial
Support".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB"><U>5.2 Steps to
improve effectiveness. </U></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;
FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language:
AR-SA"><U>The monitoring / oversight role of Council.</U>
</SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Why only "Partial Support" for this? I think we
should say "Support".</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=457014614-26112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Chuck Gomes</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [<A
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</B>Gomes, Chuck<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:18
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Philip Sheppard; Council GNSO<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [council]
Draft reply Council on GNSO reform<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=464321619-21112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thank you very much Philip for the very quick turn-around
on this and for a job very well done. I inserted my comments in the
attached document.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Chuck Gomes</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [<A
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</B>Philip Sheppard<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:04
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Council GNSO'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [council] Draft reply
Council on GNSO reform<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>As agreed on
yesterday's Council call, I promised to draft a short paper as a "straw man"
listing those recommendations on GNSO reform that may be supportable by Council
as a whole.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>Given the deadline
is submission by 30 November I thought I'd better get a move
on.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=671574813-21112007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>Not surprisingly
those listed are ones seeking:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>- improvements in
policy development and timeline flexibility,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>- improvements in
communications,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>- improvements in
outreach</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>- greater support
for constituencies.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=671574813-21112007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>I have left out
proposals on structural change suspecting we will have differing
views.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=671574813-21112007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>On working groups,
I am proposing a partial support, suspecting we mostly feel they will work for
much policy work, but that tying our hands to have ONLY working groups for
EVERY issue before us would be too inflexible. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=671574813-21112007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>I hope I have
captured areas of potential agreement. Your first comments please by
<STRONG>November 25</STRONG> after which time I'll edit a proposed final
version.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=671574813-21112007>Comments can be as
simple as - "yes I/we support" or can be proposals to strike one of the
proposed areas of agreement. In that case, a word of explanation would be good
to share.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=671574813-21112007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=671574813-21112007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Philip
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