RE: [council] Point for Discussion
- To: "Mawaki Chango" <ki_chango@xxxxxxxxx>, "GNSO Council" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [council] Point for Discussion
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:58:14 -0400
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- Thread-topic: [council] Point for Discussion
Actually Mawaki, I think the Bylaws support this view:
"Section 2. ORGANIZATION
The GNSO shall consist of (i) various Constituencies representing
particular groups of stakeholders, as described in Section 5 of this
Article and (ii) a GNSO Council responsible for managing the policy
development process of the GNSO."
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mawaki Chango
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:29 PM
> To: GNSO Council
> Subject: Re: [council] Point for Discussion
> I fully agree with avri's comments here.
> Further, maybe the constituency discipline is the issue that
> makes some members on the board think that the council should
> become a management body of working group processes that will
> elaborate policies.
> --- Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Speaking personally, i would be concerned about such a change for
> > several reasons. Among those reasons:
> > - There has to be a difference between appointing 3 representatives
> > and appointing someone to carry the voice and vote of the
> > constituency. Although most of the constituencies seem to
> hold their
> > representatives to uniform voting, i do not see anything in the by
> > laws mandating this. I think it is important to maintain the
> > possibility that every representative participates as an trusted
> > individual, in the knowledge that if she or he behaves
> contrary to the
> > interests of the constituencies, she/he might lose their
> > seat.
> > Behaving in the interests of the constituency may not
> always require
> > constituency discipline.
> > - It would lessen the pressure to actually have people attend the
> > meetings and participate in the discussion.
> > - The inner working of constituencies are, in some cases,
> opaque, we
> > would therefore have to take someone's word for it. And while the
> > constituency could complain afterwards, the vote would already be
> > complete.
> > - It doesn't account for the votes of nomcom appointees who
> might miss
> > a meeting.
> > I would be more in favor of reviewing the proxy voting
> provisions as
> > part of the GNSO reform, or assuming the GSNO gets to make
> some of its
> > own rules after the reform, consider a new proxy policy at
> that point.
> > a.
> > On 11 jul 2007, at 16.03, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > I fully understand the reason for eliminating proxy voting
> > on the
> > > Council and support it, but I would like to propose the
> > following
> > > for consideration by the Council.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that no constituency should be denied any of
> > their
> > > votes in cases where the constituency as a whole has taken a
> > > position on an issue and one of their Council
> > representatives
> > > cannot participate in a meeting. In such a case, it seems
> > > reasonable to allow any one constituency representative to
> > case all
> > > the votes for the constituency provided an officer of the
> > > constituency confirms that the vote indeed reflects the
> > wishes of
> > > the full consituency as determined through the
> > constituencies
> > > established processes. As I envision this, it would only
> > apply in
> > > cases where a vote was announced in advance, a constituency
> > > considered the choices and the constituency as a whole
> > provided
> > > direction to its reps regarding how to vote; otherwise, we
> > would
> > > simply be back to proxy voting as previously used.
> > >
> > > I am not suggesting this because of any recent or
> > anticiapted issue
> > > but rather think that it is a procedure we should define
> > before we
> > > encounter such a situation.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > I am not suggesting this as an agenda item for tomorrows
> > meeting
> > > but simply one for list discussion. Depending on the
> > discussion
> > > that follows, we could put this item on a future agenda.
> > >
> > > Chuck Gomes
> > >
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