Re: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview

[Thomas Roessler <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks.  The update version of the text -- as agreed earlier -- is
at the following URL:  http://does-not-exist.org/proxies.html

On 2004-04-05 14:04:18 -0500, Tim Ruiz wrote:
> From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'Tim Ruiz' <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> 	'Thomas Roessler' <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:04:18 -0500
> Subject: RE: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview
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> 
> Thomas,
> 
> Sorry this took longer than I had expected. I did receive a response from
> Domains by Proxy that you can use in the report. It is as follows:
> 
> --QUOTE--
> Domains By Proxy spends a great deal of time investigating every complaint
> and obtaining substantiation of wrongdoing from the complaining party before
> taking action against a customer.  We hear both the complainant's and the
> customer's versions of the story, and if action is warranted, strongly
> encourage both parties to resolve the situation. Obviously, each situation
> is unique and not every situation fits into the investigative process set
> forth above.  For example, in situations of egregious behavior by a
> customer, such as trademark and copyright infringement about which there can
> be no question, or engaging in spamming, we cancel our service immediately.
> On the other hand, when the complaint is truly lacking in substance we do
> not even bother the customer.  There have been numerous situations where
> Domains By Proxy has not cancelled its service because such action simply
> was not warranted.
>  
> With respect to the WalMart matter, Domains By Proxy followed its
> investigative framework.  Several discussions were had between Domains By
> Proxy and its customer, before the decision was made to terminate its
> privacy service, which was in accordance with the terms and conditions set
> forth in the Domain Name Proxy Agreement.  As to the details of what
> transpired, Domains By Proxy declines to elaborate as this matter could
> still be the subject of litigation and also to preserve the confidentiality
> of the conversations that took place.
> 
> Domains by Proxy, Inc.
> --UNQUOTE--
>  
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:16 PM
> To: 'Thomas Roessler'
> Cc: tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview
> 
> Thanks Tom. I'll contact them yet this evening and try to have something for
> you by tomorrow.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Roessler
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:54 PM
> To: Tim Ruiz
> Cc: tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview
> 
> On 2004-03-29 16:10:35 -0600, Tim Ruiz wrote:
> 
> > At the very least, remove the paragraph that starts with "There
> > is anecdotal evidence about Go Daddy's practices from the
> > re-code.com incident..." and the associated links (including
> > Wendy's blog link) UNLESS you make a specific attempt to contact
> > Domains by Proxy, Inc. to respond AND include that response,
> > whatever it is, in full in this report.
> 
> Referencing one side and including the other side's response
> verbatim isn't precisely balanced...  I'd suggest we move the
> incident outside the actual table, with language like this:
> 
> 	There is little anecdotal evidence available on actual
> 	experiences made with proxy and similar services.  One
> 	incident which has received some attention is the
> 	<a>re-code.com</a> incident.  The domain name had been
> 	registered using Domains By Proxy; pseudonymity of the
> 	registrant was lifted upon receipt of a <a>cease and desist
> 	letter</a> from Wal-Mart. <a>Discussion in Wendy Seltzer's
> 	web log</a>; <a>discussion on nettime-l</a>; <a>response
> 	from Domains By Proxy</a>.
> 
> "response from Domains By Proxy" would be a link to a statement from
> domains by proxy.  (If the statement of the basic facts isn't
> accurate, then that can and should of course be fixed in the main
> document.)
> 
> > BTW, it is DBP practices you are referring to here, not Go
> > Daddy's.
> 
> Noted.  Apologies.
> 
> > It is DBP's response that you need if you are going to insist on
> > including the referenced incident.
> 
> Can I leave it to you to quickly get that response?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Thomas Roessler  <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> At-Large Advisory Committee: http://alac.info/
> 
> 

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Thomas Roessler  <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
At-Large Advisory Committee: http://alac.info/