RE: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thomas,

Sorry this took longer than I had expected. I did receive a response from
Domains by Proxy that you can use in the report. It is as follows:

--QUOTE--
Domains By Proxy spends a great deal of time investigating every complaint
and obtaining substantiation of wrongdoing from the complaining party before
taking action against a customer.  We hear both the complainant's and the
customer's versions of the story, and if action is warranted, strongly
encourage both parties to resolve the situation. Obviously, each situation
is unique and not every situation fits into the investigative process set
forth above.  For example, in situations of egregious behavior by a
customer, such as trademark and copyright infringement about which there can
be no question, or engaging in spamming, we cancel our service immediately.
On the other hand, when the complaint is truly lacking in substance we do
not even bother the customer.  There have been numerous situations where
Domains By Proxy has not cancelled its service because such action simply
was not warranted.
 
With respect to the WalMart matter, Domains By Proxy followed its
investigative framework.  Several discussions were had between Domains By
Proxy and its customer, before the decision was made to terminate its
privacy service, which was in accordance with the terms and conditions set
forth in the Domain Name Proxy Agreement.  As to the details of what
transpired, Domains By Proxy declines to elaborate as this matter could
still be the subject of litigation and also to preserve the confidentiality
of the conversations that took place.

Domains by Proxy, Inc.
--UNQUOTE--
 
Thanks,
Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:16 PM
To: 'Thomas Roessler'
Cc: tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview

Thanks Tom. I'll contact them yet this evening and try to have something for
you by tomorrow.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Thomas Roessler
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:54 PM
To: Tim Ruiz
Cc: tf2-sg2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [tf2-sg2] Proxy services overview

On 2004-03-29 16:10:35 -0600, Tim Ruiz wrote:

> At the very least, remove the paragraph that starts with "There
> is anecdotal evidence about Go Daddy's practices from the
> re-code.com incident..." and the associated links (including
> Wendy's blog link) UNLESS you make a specific attempt to contact
> Domains by Proxy, Inc. to respond AND include that response,
> whatever it is, in full in this report.

Referencing one side and including the other side's response
verbatim isn't precisely balanced...  I'd suggest we move the
incident outside the actual table, with language like this:

	There is little anecdotal evidence available on actual
	experiences made with proxy and similar services.  One
	incident which has received some attention is the
	<a>re-code.com</a> incident.  The domain name had been
	registered using Domains By Proxy; pseudonymity of the
	registrant was lifted upon receipt of a <a>cease and desist
	letter</a> from Wal-Mart. <a>Discussion in Wendy Seltzer's
	web log</a>; <a>discussion on nettime-l</a>; <a>response
	from Domains By Proxy</a>.

"response from Domains By Proxy" would be a link to a statement from
domains by proxy.  (If the statement of the basic facts isn't
accurate, then that can and should of course be fixed in the main
document.)

> BTW, it is DBP practices you are referring to here, not Go
> Daddy's.

Noted.  Apologies.

> It is DBP's response that you need if you are going to insist on
> including the referenced incident.

Can I leave it to you to quickly get that response?

Thanks,
-- 
Thomas Roessler  <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
At-Large Advisory Committee: http://alac.info/