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RE: [registrars] tracking spammers

  • To: "Mark Jeftovic" <markjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Rob Hall" <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [registrars] tracking spammers
  • From: "Paul Stahura" <stahura@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:54:31 -0800
  • Cc: "Rick Wesson" <wessorh@xxxxxx>, "Registrars Constituency" <registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • In-reply-to: <45B65A10.7090308@easydns.com>
  • References: <72FB225C6321EF44892A6093962CC556067026@momex.momentous.ca> <45B65A10.7090308@easydns.com>
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  • Thread-topic: [registrars] tracking spammers

yes, otherwise a spam with "www.ar.com" in the body would trigger not
just blacklist of ar.com (which may or may not be correct action) but
also all names using NS1.AR.COM and NS2.AR.COM for name servers.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Jeftovic [mailto:markjr@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:55 AM
To: Rob Hall
Cc: Rick Wesson; Registrars Constituency
Subject: Re: [registrars] tracking spammers


Right,

I meant auto-generated reports broken down by nameserver, NOT 
auto-adding to RBLs

Rick should be familiar with what I meant, we get similar lists of 
botnet controllers, malware domains, etc to the dnsbl project list

Rob Hall wrote:
> Rick,
> 
> It is one thing to break the report down for us.  It would be quite
> another for you to file it with any RBL lists.  I would prefer you
give
> it to us and let us deal with it.  I think Mark was suggesting that
you
> start auto-reporting.
> 
> And I think overall it is a step in the right direction.  I know we
will
> be in touch.
> 
> Rob.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Wesson [mailto:wessorh@xxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:46 PM
> To: Rob Hall
> Cc: Registrars Constituency; galvin+dnssac@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [registrars] tracking spammers
> 
> rob,
> 
> I've already got one request to break the report out by name servers
so
> registrars can understand whose infrastructure is at risk.
> 
> really, i hope this kind of thing helps registrars and the industry at
> large.
> 
> 
> -rick
> 
> 
> Rob Hall wrote:
> 
>>Uh, no.
>>
>>I would rather have the list and cut off the domain, than have our
>>entire DNS infrastructure blacklisted automatically.
>>
>>I bet most of the spammers are using the Registrars DNS
> 
> infrastructure.
> 
>>Better to deal with it on a domain level and quickly.
>>
>>Sounds like a great service Rick
>>
>>Rob.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Jeftovic
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:23 PM
>>To: Rick Wesson
>>Cc: Registrars Constituency; galvin+dnssac@xxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: [registrars] tracking spammers
>>
>>We'll take a copy Rick.
>>
>>Is it possible to break it down by nameserver as well? THat way you 
>>could file reports to dnsbl for the major DNS suppliers similar to the
> 
> 
>>malware domain reports we get.
>>
>>-mark
>>
>>Rick Wesson wrote:
>>
>>>Registrars:
>>>
>>>Its 2007 and SPAM/UCE continues to plague the Internet at large. I am
>>>offering other Registrars the capability to understand which of their
>>>registrants are abusing net network. Often these same users defraud
>>>registrars and cause other resource issues within other registrars or
>>>hosting providers.
>>>
>>>I can produce daily reports of spamvertized domains registered at
> 
> your
> 
>>>registrar. Often these domains are used in Phishing or in the
>>>monetization of SPAM and UCE.
>>>
>>>If you would like a report of domains registered by your registrar
>>
>>drop
>>
>>>me a note and I'll produce reports for your abuse department.
>>>
>>>Currently we are tracking around 39,000 domains for the past week
>>>involving some 211 registrars.
>>>
>>>Currently there is no charge for this service and it is offered to
>>>assist registrars in their efforts to end abuse of the DNS system.
>>>
>>>
>>>best,
>>>
>>>-rick
>>>
>>
> 
> 

-- 
Mark Jeftovic <markjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Founder & President, easyDNS Technologies Inc.
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