RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here is some additional information that might be helpful.

The VeriSign FAQ for the i-NAV(tm) plug-in can be found at
http://idn.verisign-grs.com/plug-in/support/index.jsp.  Please note the
response in the FAQ to question #2 under the heading 'i-Nav: Internet
Explorer Plug-In' (What versions of Internet Explorer does i-Nav(tm)
support?); it is copied here: "The i-Nav(tm) plug-in is compatible with
Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP and runs in Internet Explorer 5.0 and
above. Due to the limitations of English versions of Windows 98, ME and
NT, it is not possible to enter multilingual text into the address bar
and therefore you cannot use i-Nav(tm) on those operating systems. To
enable multilingual usage for English versions of Windows 2000 and
Windows XP, please go to Control Panels/Regional Options and then select
the languages you wish to use."  As you can see, we specifically say
that the problem will occur for users who are on an **English** version
of those  operating systems.

This would not be an issue for a user on say a Korean version of any of
those operating systems because they can enter multilingual text into
the address bar.  I should also point out that the majority of users of
i-Nav(tm) are on **non--English** versions of the operating system quite
simply for the fact that IDNs are targeted to specific language
environments and most English speakers do not know how to enter
multilingual characters of a language. Finally, because of the
limitations of the Windows Operating system (for those systems) **and
not** i-Nav(tm) we wanted to set expectations **for English** users.

Note also that IE7 can only be used on XP/SP2 or Vista systems so
i-Nav(tm) would be required to resolve IDNs on any other system using
IE6.

Chuck Gomes
 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:47 AM
> To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> 
> Please note some factual corrections to the message below.
> 
> Chuck Gomes
>  
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:03 PM
> > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: i-nav@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> > 
> > Chuck and all,
> > 
> >   Thanks for the detailed info.  Glad someone is on the ball here.  
> > >:)
> > 
> >   What I noticed is the IDN plugin isn't fully supported 
> for OS's Win 
> > 98, ME and NT, as "it is not possible to enter multilingual 
> text into 
> > the address bar and therefore you cannot use i-Nav on those 
> operating 
> > systems."
> 
> Correction: The plugin works fine for the OS's listed. We 
> developed and fully tested the plug-in for the OS's listed 
> and nothing has changed in that regard.
> 
> >  Perhaps this
> > is where the current/original hauge.com problem is centered?  
> > Just a thought.  However it also occurs to me that this 
> plugin seems 
> > to force an upgrade to IE 7.0 which has significant 
> security problems 
> > which MS has not yet addressed and is currently not recommended by 
> > NIST.  That's not a very good solution.  And certainly not user 
> > friendly, if you don't mind me saying so.
> 
> Correction:  The plug-in does not force an upgrade to IE 7.0. 
>  It is still available and usable for all the OS's you 
> listed.  It would not be needed if IE 7.0 was being used but 
> that has nothing to do with its functionality for other OS's.
>   
> > 
> >   So doing online banking or financial transactions with a usable 
> > platform for this plugin, opens up users to significant security 
> > problems which the GAO, FISMA, ICT, NIST, and ISC recommend 
> strongly 
> > against.  Hence this plugin for ecommerce purposes is not 
> very useful 
> > and likely dangerous to users.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Jul 27, 2007 9:58 AM
> > >To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> > >
> > >VeriSign implemented the Web-based navigation system in 
> January 2003.
> > >The system was implemented as a temporary bridging solution 
> > to improve 
> > >the user experience by providing distribution of the 
> > i-Nav(tm) plug-in 
> > >until software that supported the Internationalized Domain 
> > Name (IDNs) 
> > >standards was more readily available.  The i-Nav plug-in is 
> > a tool that 
> > >users can download and use to navigate IDNs at the browser level.
> > >
> > >Because an increasing number of browsers now support IDNs, 
> > on July 25, 
> > >2007, VeriSign completed the decommissioning of its Web-based 
> > >navigation system as a distribution mechanism for the i-Nav 
> > plug-in.  
> > >VeriSign notified all registrars in May 2007 that the 
> > decommissioning 
> > >would take place.
> > >
> > >It is important to note that VeriSign has not decommissioned 
> > the i-Nav 
> > >plug-in.  In fact, the i-Nav plug-in is still available 
> for download 
> > >and remains supported by VeriSign, (To download the i-Nav 
> > plug-in visit
> > >www.idnnow.com.)
> > >
> > >The decommissioning of the Web-based navigation system had 
> > no impact to 
> > >the current users of the i-Nav plug-in or IDN-enabled browsers.
> > >However, for those who are not using the i-Nav plug-in or an 
> > >IDN-enabled browser, VeriSign strongly recommends they install an 
> > >IDN-enabled browser of their choice to continue to enjoy 
> > navigating the 
> > >Web using IDNs in their own language. A few sample browsers 
> > currently 
> > >supporting IDNs are as follows:
> > >
> > >*	Microsoft Internet Explorer
> > >URL: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/getitnow.mspx
> > >Platform: Windows XP, Windows Server 2003
> > >Version: 7.0 and higher
> > > 
> > >*	Netscape Navigator (English only)
> > >URL: http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/
> > >Platform: Windows
> > >Version: 7.0 and higher
> > >
> > >*	Opera Web Browser
> > >URL: http://www.opera.com
> > >Platform: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux
> > >Version: 7.2 and higher
> > >
> > >*	Firefox
> > >URL: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> > >Platform: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux
> > >Version: 0.6 and higher
> > >
> > >For those users who wish to continue to use older versions 
> > of Microsoft 
> > >Internet Explorer such as Internet Explorer 5 or 6, 
> VeriSign's i-Nav 
> > >plug-in is still available for download at 
> > http://www.idnnow.com. This 
> > >plug-in will continue to be a valuable add-on for Internet 
> > Explorer 5 
> > >or
> > >6 running on old versions of Windows platforms such as 
> > Windows 98, NT 
> > >and 2000.
> > >
> > >Chuck Gomes
> > > 
> > >"This message is intended for the use of the individual or 
> entity to 
> > >which it is addressed, and may contain information that is 
> > privileged, 
> > >confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any 
> > >unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly 
> > prohibited. 
> > >If you have received this message in error, please notify sender 
> > >immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission."
> > > 
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danny Younger
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:03 AM
> > >> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> > >> 
> > >> Posted to ICANN's Public Partiocipation Website:
> > >> 
> > >> Hello, I'm a server manager in a Korean web hosting company.
> > >> The recently big obstacle occurs in connection of Hangul(Korean 
> > >> alphabet) .com domain. Currently 92% of the Korean 
> Internet users 
> > >> when using the Hangul.com and Hangul.net domain which is 
> > registered 
> > >> can only see the message "Page cannot be displayed". Before 
> > >> previously 20th passed, it does not same current status.
> > >> 
> > >> So, All of Hangul IDNs registrants are put on the 
> serious monetary 
> > >> damage and broken fame of their site.
> > >> I asked a cause in various registrar and found out that is 
> > >> discontinues i-nav navigation server operations which 
> the Verisign 
> > >> operates from Korea and the various area does.
> > >> 
> > >> Verisign positions which I listen from Korean registrars 
> > is, because 
> > >> MS released ie 7.0, there are not necessity to operating i-nav 
> > >> navigation.
> > >> But this judgement is to be incorrect at least in Korea.
> > >> 
> > >> After release of MS ie 7.0 at 2006 November, world-wide 
> 4 browsers 
> > >> all under supporting IDNs. But 93% of the Korean 
> Internet users as 
> > >> yet is using ie6.0. If there is not i-nav navigation, 
> millions of 
> > >> domain will not be able to use entirely.
> > >> 
> > >> Because of i-nav navigation, although MS did not update 
> against ie 
> > >> IDNs after IDNs international standard published, Hangul 
> > IDN service 
> > >> is possible.
> > >> Currently the connection of the Hangul .com and Hangul 
> .net IDN in 
> > >> Korea absolutely depends in i-nav navigation.
> > >> 
> > >> Unlike with Europe or the United States, only 7.34% 
> Korean use the 
> > >> browser which support IDNs. 99% of the Korean Internet 
> > users use MS 
> > >> Internet Explorer, but market share of 7.0 versions 
> which support 
> > >> IDNs still stop in 6.8%. And IE 7.0 has not in prospect to 
> > automatic 
> > >> update in near future In Korea.
> > >> From Friday which passes, when Korea 92.5% Internet user inputs 
> > >> Hangul .com in the address window, they does not get any 
> > result , or, 
> > >> on top of that they moved toward the dangerous fishing site. Of 
> > >> course, to previously that also these users will be able 
> > to visit a 
> > >> Hangul .com and Hangul .net site through i-nav web 
> > navigation server.
> > >> 
> > >> Because well to know Korean Internet environment the KRNIC 
> > which is 
> > >> Korean ccTLD registry operates a difference server for Hangul.kr 
> > >> domain will be able to connected right site without help 
> > of browser. 
> > >> Verisign judged i-nav navigation server retirement at 
> > least without 
> > >> consideration about this situation.
> > >> 
> > >> Follows Korean registrars, they are sending a request 
> > Verisign. But 
> > >> it is difficult situation expecting positive answer. If this 
> > >> disconnection of Hangul.com and Hangul.net domain is 
> continued, it 
> > >> will bring result which put the thousands of registrant on 
> > enormous 
> > >> loss and, lose the foundation of IDNs from hereafter Korea.
> > >> 
> > >> Based on these facts, I proposes ICANN and Verisign to 
> know about 
> > >> seriousness of problem and to take the appropriate management. I 
> > >> expects your countermove with deep consideration the 
> > universality of 
> > >> domain and Internet.
> > >> 
> > >> Thank you for reading my poor English.
> > >> 
> > >> * the statistical data which it refers to be referred from 
> > >> www.internettrend.co.kr reports.
> > >> 
> > >> http://public.icann.org/forums/public-forum#comment-321
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>        
> > Regards,
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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