Re: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Debbie and all,

  Yes thank you Vint for the correction.  My point remains
the same.  I am also very sure the Scots on my list got the message
and recognize how they have been again, so horribly demeaned.

Debbie Garside wrote:

> Thanks Vint. I realised (thanks to Stephane).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vint Cerf [mailto:vint@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 03 July 2007 16:52
> > To: 'Debbie Garside'; jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Hugh Dierker'
> > Cc: 'ga'; 'icann board address'; 'icann staff'
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN
> >
> > .IE is for Ireland, not .EI
> >
> >
> > Vinton G Cerf
> > Chief Internet Evangelist
> > Google
> > Regus Suite 384
> > 13800 Coppermine Road
> > Herndon, VA 20171
> >
> > +1 703 234-1823
> > +1 703-234-5822 (f)
> >
> > vint@xxxxxxxxxx
> > www.google.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Debbie Garside [mailto:debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:43 AM
> > To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Hugh Dierker'
> > Cc: 'ga'; 'icann board address'; 'icann staff'; 'vinton g. cerf'
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN
> >
> > Hi Jeff
> >
> > I should just make one or two corrections for you that I
> > missed in my last
> > email:
> >
> > .IR is the Country Code for Iran
> >
> > .EI is the Country Code for Ireland (EIRE)
> >
> > Ireland has never formed part of any other country.
> >
> > Northern Ireland forms part of the UK and last I heard they
> > had devolved to an Assembly.  Technically, as they are
> > geographically removed from the UK mainland and now (since
> > May 2007) have a devolved administration they MAY be eligible
> > for a Country Code.  However, given the history of the NI
> > Assembly, it is, perhaps, a little too soon to be counting
> > our chickens! In any case, personally FWIW, I don't like the
> > thought of NI getting a Country Code.  I would like to see
> > them under .EI
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> > > Sent: 04 July 2007 05:05
> > > To: Hugh Dierker
> > > Cc: ga; icann board address; icann staff; vinton g. cerf
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN
> > >
> > > Dr. Dierker and all,
> > >
> > >  Well let se now, the Vatican has it's own ccTLD or some call it an
> > > sTLD = Special TLD, yet no other religious deity has one.
> > Isn't that
> > > a bit odd?  Also Scotland applied for a ccTLD and was
> > denied, remember
> > > those debates?  However Ireland has it's own ccTLD, doesn't that
> > > dichotomy strike you as rather odd as well?  And .Iq has
> > been assigned
> > > to Iraq yet has no functioning NIC or NOC, even odder still?
> > > And now we have the dubiously illustrious Haiti getting
> > it's own ccTLD
> > > granted by the omnipotent ICANN Bod.
> > >
> > >   I am very sure the Scots are not very pleased and may now
> > start to
> > > wonder if the Vatican is not happy with how they practice
> > Catholicism
> > > or that ICANN has all along viewed them as blasphemers in
> > comparison
> > > to the peoples of Haiti.  Now I am a Jew, and even in the new
> > > testament we are gods chosen people, yet ICANN has not yet
> > seem fit to
> > > bestow upon us our own ccTLD or sTLD.  Why is that I wonder, is it
> > > because we have offended our Catholic brothers in some very
> > egregious
> > > way, or are we not deserving of such a bestowance by the omnipotent
> > > ICANN?
> > > Are we worse than the world recognized criminal state of
> > Haiti?  Is it
> > > because we are allied in the state of Israel in a struggle against
> > > those whom would seek to destroy us and the state of
> > Israel?  If it is
> > > any of these reasons why than we ask for the aid of the holy se for
> > > his assistance in recognizing us to the omnipotent Bod of ICANN to
> > > grant us our deliverance and allow us our own ccTLD or sTLD.
> > >
> > >   So now Dr. Dierker, are you and Debbie beginning to get the drift
> > > here, or need I go further?  Is this not an illustration of
> > why ICANN
> > > Directors desperately need to be directly elected by any and all
> > > interested stakeholders, users and/or registrants?  I mean
> > really now,
> > > Scotland isn't deserving of a ccTLD and Haiti is?  England is
> > > deserving of 2 ccTLD's, .GB and .UK and Ireland with .IR and yet
> > > again, Scotland is not?  Come on now folks, wake up and smell the
> > > coffee or tea if you prefer, and recognize ICANN sense it's
> > inception
> > > practices Selective Censorship in one of it most ugly
> > forms.  Any form
> > > of imposed Censorship is wrong.  I reject such behavior or
> > concept, I
> > > hope all of you will also.
> > >
> > > Hugh Dierker wrote:
> > >
> > > >    I have seen too many instances where it was the massive
> > > influx and
> > > > outflux of information that actually changed a rather dire
> > > situation.
> > > > Information Technology should target areas of destitution
> > and civil
> > > > wrong (don't ask; Soviet Union, South Africa, Vietnam and Womens
> > > > rights throughout the Middle East) Also I do not believe
> > it is the
> > > > call of non-transparent and non-representative
> > > organizations to decide
> > > > when and where we engage in embargos of information - next
>

Regards,

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