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Re: [ga] China confirms alternate root for TLDs

  • To: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] China confirms alternate root for TLDs
  • From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:21:01 -0800 (PST)
  • Cc: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Veni Markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Strictly on IP matters, won't the market take care of it's self. China is already cleaning up their forged clothing practice. And lest we forget they have some big sporting event which will draw world wide attention.
   
  Now ICANNs failure to identify and notify of this situation is nothing less than gross negligence.
   
  OTOH China should be allowed to do as the please unless it harms the rest of us.
   
   
  Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
  Karl and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Exactly right and a very distinct point Vini, and his media misreporters
have failed to correctly report on and/or about. But thankfully more
accurate and responsible media providers are doing so in a more
in depth manner...

Karl Auerbach wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Hugh Dierker wrote:
>
> > You did not address whether or not this can "hurt" the "net" as the
> > rest of us use it.
>
> > I am having trouble finding the harm. I rely on experts like yourself
> > to break it down and tell me why it is bad.
>
> Despite the shrill noises emitted by Stuart Lynn's ICP3 there is no
> technical harm caused by competing roots.
>
> There are old versions of bind that wrongly accept "additional"
> information that may get them confused if they come across a name server
> that honors a different group of root servers and provides a set of root
> NS records in a response. But hopefully that version of bind is on its
> deathbed, or dead, by now. Newer code is more immune.
>
> As for user-level harm - Here in the USA a few decades ago the telephones
> only had 0...9 on the rotary dial. But with the advent of touchpads we
> got # and *, which enabled a whole slew of new services. Of course those
> who wouldn't give up their rotary dial phones had a hard time. The same
> is true with new TLDs found in competing roots - there will be some pain
> felt by those who chose to live in a few-TLD world, but that will be their
> choice.
>
> There will also be some pain because some roots will have tlds .com, .net
> ... .ewe .foo .blap while others will have .com .net ... .ewe .quack .bark
>
> In other words there will be different boutique TLDs available through
> different roots. Well, that's life as the boutiques try to earn their
> place in the sun and grow for acceptance by all root operators. It's
> called "marketing" and "building a brand".
>
> The key element is not competing roots, or even imperfect intersecting
> of sets of TLDs offered by different roots, rather it is consistency: .com
> ought to have the same contents no matter who offers it, .ewe ought to
> have the same contents no matter who offers it.
>
> And that is where trademark law becomes our friend - trademark law is
> designed for exactly this purpose, to let consumers have a means to
> distinguish and identify goods and services (TLDs). To do this we allow
> trademark (TLD owners) to duke it out to find out who has the right to
> label their goods and services with a particular mark. That process is
> well established in law; we don't need a body of internet governance to do
> it.
>
> --karl--

Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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