Re: [ga] Karl's comments at the 2003 Senate hearings on allocation systems

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gene and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Exactly right also Gene!  I would assume that DOC/NTIA would
defer that decision to ICANN.  If that is true, than we are back
to how such a decision is made.  Given the skewed structure
of ICANN today, it would also be a good question to ask:
What constitutes "Effective" as it relates to section F?  I would
have to say that due to the broad wording of section F, "Effective"
is a moving and changing target.

Gene Marsh wrote:

> ...and here is the problem.  Who is to define what "Effective" is?  There
> are likely thousands of differing definitions.
>
> Gene...
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Jeff Williams
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> Subject: Re: [ga] Karl's comments at the 2003 Senate hearings on allocation
> systems
>
> Sotiris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> stakeholders/uesrs,
>
> Not to belittle or negate your point here, but section "F" does not preclude
> commercial interests as at least part of "Ensuring effective use and
> growth",  now does it?
>
> sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > >
> > > And if the DoC doesn't oversee ICANN, who oversees the Internet as
> > > much as anyone ever will, which branch of government does? You gloss
> > > over the fact that the Internet was placed under the control of the
> > > department of commerce simply because it backs up what I said about
> > > the Internet being a tool of commerce.
> >
> > >From the DOC's web site (please pay particular attention to sub section
> F):
> > http://204.193.232.34/cgi-bin/doit.cgi?204:112:ca6ff65e72b6f38e4fe42ea
> > 2ba9cf9358ad6df26eae063a68a6e8f420a9ac897:245
> >
> > -----
> > SECTION 2. MISSION, FUNCTIONS AND AUTHORITY.
> >
> > .01 The historic mission of the Department is “to foster,
> > promote, and develop the foreign and domestic commerce” of the
> United States.
> > This has evolved, as a result of legislative and administrative
> > additions, to encompass broadly the responsibility to foster, serve,
> > and promote the Nation¢s economic development and technological
> > advancement. The Department fulfills this mission by:
> >
> > a. Participating with other Government agencies in the creation of
> > national policy, through the President¢s Cabinet and its subdivisions.
> >
> > b. Promoting and assisting international trade.
> >
> > c. Strengthening the international economic position of the United States.
> >
> > d. Promoting progressive domestic business policies and growth.
> >
> > e. Improving comprehension and uses of the physical environment and
> > its oceanic life.
> >
> > f. Ensuring effective use and growth of the Nation¢s scientific and
> > technical resources.
> >
> > g. Acquiring, analyzing, and disseminating information regarding the
> > Nation and the economy to help achieve increased social and economic
> > benefit.
> >
> > h. Assisting states, communities, and individuals with economic progress.
> > -----
> >
> > The DOC is charged with "ensuring effective use and growth of the
> > Nation¢s scientific and technical resources"; so I guess that answers
> > your question as to why the DOC is involved and in what capacity.
> >
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
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