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Re: [ga] Reaching Out

  • To: rbhauptman@xxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Reaching Out
  • From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Do you know the difference between Maoism and Ho Chi Minh doctrine, does the name Trotscky (sp - translation impossible or unrecognizable) or Jesus or Che mean anything to your Ivory tower pea brain? Socialism is a wonderful concept and the best practice of such we have seen in fifty years is here on the net. The worst is Canadian social medicine or perhaps the broken "Stans" where hatred overruled compassion. Socialism in a Locke society is pure as in Utopia, however it requires an informed and active citizenry, Socratian logistical socialism demands death to those who cannot live within or without the "society". 
But me I am a low man and have only walked and starved and faught with the Santanistas and Basques, i do not merit my title of Doctor of linguistics, Xin loi, pardon em mua, Break me down bro, exchuche, con permisso pardon lo ciento mucho, or just plain sorry you are too ignorant to understand common americanisms.

In Grace he follows even your ignorant soul, and I pray for you in all your repudiation of intelligence.
 
e
rbhauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:
I just love it when folks use a term like 'socialist' or 'communist' and don't know what those terms actually mean.  I see nothing socialist below.  It may be egalitarian, it may even be "fair" and "equal" but socialist?  No.
 
Rick Hauptman
CA Democratic Party
Representing 7.1 Million CA Democrats
(now that's egalitarian)
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [ga] Reaching Out

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e

Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wendy,
 
This makes so much sense. I've been saying and thinking for years that the At Large should be expanded and enlivened by approaching leaders of teaching unions, and university/colleges, and religious organisations (like the Church of England here in UK), and libraries (for posting public info sheets about the At Large), and student organisations --- approach people with influence, convince them, and get them to endorse the At Large to their members.
 
The At Large should be so much more than a dozen (largely techie types) who have been drawn together by ICANN (to be honest, for its own purposes and agenda).
 
The whole ALAC and RALO initiative needs to be reviewed, and to be honest, it is the participants of ALAC itself who should (en masse) present ICANN with what they want to be and start introducing more self-determination, rather than definition by Denise, ICANN and the whole Reform Agenda (which, frankly, sought to limit damage after the expulsion of elected At Large Board members.
 
I really support your suggestions in your post to the ALAC discussion list.
 
Yrs,
 
Richard Henderson
www.atlarge.org 
 
 
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http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00967.html
 
 
For an addition to the agenda, can we confront the major question head-on: Is ALAC (and its ponderous ALS-RALO appendages) a meaningful, appropriate, or sufficient means for individual involvement in ICANN? After two years at it, I think the answer is no, but I think we're at least well placed to propose some better alternatives. What about jump-starting some other full-fledged constituencies to complement non-commercial: libraries, educators, registrants, privacy constituency? It's plain there are a lot of people who are burned out from trying to deal with ICANN, but many more might participate if given meaningful opportunities on par with commercial interests, rather than subordinate to them.



--Wendy
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