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Re: [ga] Interesting Times

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Interesting Times
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:04:20 -0800
  • Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, Paul Twomey <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <20050127145327.58091.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Eric, Sotiris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  I think you are selling California and yourself short in response to
misguided and less than adequately knowledgeable remarks Sotiris
made.  I think he has not heard of the Voting rights act, and is not
as familiar with California or with it's current governors history
as to his political acumen...  This fact of course is not all that
surprising coming from a Canadian citizen and one that once
espoused that paypal is an adequate tool for authentication....

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    If I may be so bold;
> Are you taking the position that non-IT professionals should not be
> considered appropriate candidates for voting rights as members of
> ICANN? And further, the reason is that they are simply too ignorant to
> participate in the steerage of the vessel.
> I believe in history you will find such examples. As Franklin once
> wrote of a revolution he was watching " a fool sir is still a fool and
> the mere fact that you gather them by the multitudes only aggravates
> the situation". Marx of course shared this point of view, that it
> would take decades for the proletariat to gain the intelligence for
> democratic self rule.
> Your personal attacks against me and California appear to be right on
> the money. Thank you for that insight.
>
> Eric
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hugh Dierker wrote:
>
> >
> > So now I must pose the question to all those screaming for at large
> > representation on the BoD of ICANN. When you are not even one of the
>
> > individual users why do you think it is important they have a voice?
>
> > And secondly I ask one of these proclaimers of need, say Jeff, Karl,
>
> > Danny, Richard, Michael or Sotiris to name a single person that
> could be
> > elected by an at large that would be a dotcommoner none IT
> professional?
>
> Franchise is by nature exclusive, I'm afraid. Any fledgling student of
>
> the political arts could tell you that... dang, just turn on your
> idiot
> box and take a gander at Arnie, your governor (and future president?)
> in
> telebabble land. Even in the blessed United States, there are
> qualifications to voting privileges... and to becoming President, at
> least as of this writing... What makes you think ICANN or the Internet
>
> ought to be any different? You know, for an American, I descry a
> curiously great deal of socialist-borderline-Marxist ideas in your
> ramblings... I suppose if you were on board a cruise ship long enough,
>
> you'd want to have the passengers take charge of the vessel and make
> you
> captain. But let me ask you this: What the hell do you know about
> being a captain of a cruise ship? Do you honestly believe that because
>
> you were a fan of Captain Stubing and the rest of the Love Boat crew,
> that this qualifies you (or any other passenger) to commandeer an
> ocean
> liner?
>
> SS
>
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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