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Re: [ga] Interesting Times

  • To: "sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Interesting Times
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:31:10 -0800
  • Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, Paul Twomey <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <20050127030120.45058.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com> <41F866E8.3010704@hermesnetwork.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sotiris, Eric, and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  I disagree with several of the remarks and connotations there unto
pertaining that Sotiris offered in response to Eric's very find and
good consonance question.  It has been ask many times before
in many different ways as those of us stakeholders/users and or
IT professionals are all too aware of.  And the question's answers
have been by in large  less than direct, such as Sotiris's is below.

  My answer is a simple yes, to Eric's second question.

  As to his first, it is, and has been very clear sense 1999 that
the than interim ICANN BoD/staff and subsequent ICANN
BoD's/Staff's are keenly only interested in top-down management
of the internet, even though it is a public resource... Where
the average every day stakeholder/user, IT professional or not,
is only interested in bottom-up management of the Internet and
or ICANN's contracted responsibilities... So you are either on
one side of this dichotomy of ideology or the other.  There is
no tangible and/or practical middle ground...  It is clear, given
Sotiris's remarks below, where he stands...

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> Hugh Dierker wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > So now I must pose the question to all those screaming for at large
> > representation on the BoD of ICANN. When you are not even one of the
> > individual users why do you think it is important they have a voice?
> > And secondly I ask one of these proclaimers of need, say Jeff, Karl,
> > Danny, Richard, Michael or Sotiris to name a single person that could be
> > elected by an at large that would be a dotcommoner none IT professional?
>
> Franchise is by nature exclusive, I'm afraid.  Any fledgling student of
> the political arts could tell you that... dang, just turn on your idiot
> box and take a gander at Arnie, your governor (and future president?) in
> telebabble land.  Even in the blessed United States, there are
> qualifications to voting privileges... and to becoming President, at
> least as of this writing...  What makes you think ICANN or the Internet
> ought to be any different?  You know, for an American, I descry a
> curiously great deal of socialist-borderline-Marxist ideas in your
> ramblings...  I suppose if you were on board a cruise ship long enough,
> you'd want to have the passengers take charge of the vessel and make you
> captain.  But let me ask you this:  What the hell do you know about
> being a captain of a cruise ship?  Do you honestly believe that because
> you were a fan of Captain Stubing and the rest of the Love Boat crew,
> that this qualifies you (or any other passenger) to commandeer an ocean
> liner?
>
> SS
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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