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Re: [council] can somebody remind me what the "Teresa Swinehart Update" item is on Sunday?



Hi,

I guess I still consider it a useful bag of tricks we can dig into anytime we start figuring out how to do something.

I do not think there is any obligation on the GNSO, or anyone else for that matter, to use the content of panel reports unless they look useful.

And despite being a Ms.Grinch, though perhaps not the grinchiest grinch, on this whole panel idea, I think there are bunches of ideas worth thinking about.

avri

On 19-Mar-14 21:00, Mike O'Connor wrote:
hi all,

one of the nice things about a poor memory, that is failing, is the
frequent opportunity to go “oh!  i remember now!”  :-)

oh!  i remember now!

by the way — i also can’t remember if i shared this little thought
exercise i did on an earlier draft of their recommendations — the
details are wrong now (i haven’t had time to really grind through their
final draft, that’s airplane reading) but the concept still works for
me.  i’ve attached that little picture to this note.

i think their stuff is fine — but i want to evaluate the
relevance/usefulness of their proposals along at least three continuums:

Goals <—> Tools

Participation <—>  Policy Making

Working Groups <—> SG/Constituencies

the little picture i’ve attached only does two dimensions, i thought of
the third one later.  there may well be more.

their work would have been improved by having a few knowledgeable people
selected as part of the “expert working group", but hey that’s true for
almost all of them.  we’ve *got* to defend that “working group” brand
better in the future.

thanks all.

mikey

PS.  sorry for throwing the NCSG under the bus — i’m quoted as saying
that they would be a great place to experiment with Liquid Democracy.
  nope, i don’t remember saying that (see how handy a failing memory
is?), but in that particular instance i also can’t imagine *why* i would
have said it.  i’ll own the words, there’s no unringing that bell.
  however...

i bet what i *meant* to say, and which i think might be true, is that
the *constituencies and SGs of the non-contracted parties house* of the
GNSO might be a good place to try some of those things out.  mostly,
what i was trying to get at is that there are some places where some of
those ideas would be a Really Bad Idea (working groups, and the
Contracted Parties House).  we non-contracted SG/constituencies have a
need to broaden our reach and do a better job of preparing people to be
effective participants in WGs. some of these ideas might be good things
to experiment with.  but i like to put myself in the boat with everybody
else, not throw some of us under the bus.  sorry about that.



On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

One topic that may be worth raising during the discussion is whether
the work of the panels will be expanded to take into account the
recent developments. I am particularly interested, how ICANN can
develop and implement a truly bottom-up, multistakeholder
accountability structure. Is accountability even an issue for the
strategy panels? It should be...


Volker

Am 19.03.2014 12:41, schrieb john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
Mikey,
Recall that we originally sought to have Beth Novack, the chair of
the Multi-Stakeholder Innovation Strategy Panel attend so that there
might be a Q-and-A.  This was driven by the initial set of proposals
from the Panel and the emergence of "crowdsourcing" as a legitimate
way to make policy.
Staff will be standing in.
Berard

    --------- Original Message ---------
    Subject: Re: [council] can somebody remind me what the "Teresa
    Swinehart Update" item is on Sunday?
    From: "David Cake" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Date: 3/18/14 9:23 pm
    To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
    Cc: "Council" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

    Theresa will be updating us on the MSI panels work before we have
    our open discussion about them.
    David


    On 19 Mar 2014, at 4:33 am, Mike O'Connor <mike@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        this is mostly aimed at David Cake or Jonathan.  but any/all
        are welcome to help out.
        i’m looking at that Teresa Swinehart Update item on Sunday
        morning just before the Strat Panel section.  i can’t
        remember what she’s updating us *about*  can somebody remind me?
        sorry to be so dense,
        mikey


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