Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

[tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Make it two for B.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:23:59 
To: Neuman, Jeff<Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 'tim@xxxxxxxxxxx'<tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 
'owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'<owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
'council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support 
Second Milestone Report

So that's one vote for version B, right?

Stéphane



Le 17 mai 2011 à 17:54, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :

> Unfortunately, I cannot commit on behalf of the rysg to that last sentence on 
> "observance" and would prefer its deletion since on our last rysg call 
> questions were raised and I am not sure it adds to the substance of the note.
> 
> Thanks. 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. 
> Vice President, Law & Policy 
> NeuStar, Inc. 
> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> 
>  
> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:43 AM
> To: tim@xxxxxxxxxxx <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Cc: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Council GNSO 
> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant 
> Support Second Milestone Report 
>  
> Thanks Tim, Jeff, Mary and Alan,
> 
> This would be the proposed message then. Either (I call this version A):
> 
> Dear Peter,
>  
> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it 
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and 
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as 
> possible. 
> The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the 
> JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the GNSO-chartering process, in submitting 
> its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.
>  
> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the 
> Board.
>  
> Best regards,
> Stephane van Gelder
> GNSO Council Chair
> 
> Or (this my version B):
> 
> Dear Peter,
>  
> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it 
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and 
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as 
> possible. 
>  
> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the 
> Board.
>  
> Best regards,
> Stephane van Gelder
> GNSO Council Chair
> 
> As Olga had requested a vote, I would like to suggest that we give ourselves 
> until Thursday's meeting to vote by return email to the list on either 
> version A or B, and whichever has the most votes is the one I send.
> 
> Is that acceptable to everyone?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> 
> Le 17 mai 2011 à 14:12, tim@xxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :
> 
>> No objection if you remove the last sentence. There is no chartering process 
>> for CWGs. The ALAC and GNSO could not even agree on what the charter should 
>> be. And at least a few of us have concerns about how and why CWGs are being 
>> formed.
>> 
>> 
>> Tim
>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sender: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:45:21 +0200
>> To: Council GNSO<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant 
>> Support Second Milestone Report
>> 
>> Councillors,
>> 
>> Please find below the NCSG's suggestion on a message which I could send to 
>> the Chairman of the Board in my capacity as Chair of the GNSO.
>> 
>> Thanks Mary for providing this draft.
>> 
>> Please let me have your comments.
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 14 mai 2011 à 16:31, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>>> Hi - sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the Council letter; 
>>> there has been some lively discussion among some NCSG folks about it.
>>>  
>>> We suggest the following draft:
>>>  
>>> Dear Peter,
>>>  
>>> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
>>> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
>>> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it 
>>> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 
>>> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and 
>>> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as 
>>> possible. 
>>> The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates 
>>> the JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the chartering process, in submitting 
>>> its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.
>>>  
>>> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the 
>>> Board.
>>>  
>>> Best regards,
>>> Stephane van Gelder
>>> Cheers
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Mary W S Wong
>>> Professor of Law
>>> Chair, Graduate IP Programs
>>> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
>>> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
>>> Two White Street
>>> Concord, NH 03301
>>> USA
>>> Email: mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Phone: 1-603-513-5143
>>> Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php
>>> Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) 
>>> at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
>>> >>>
>>> From:       Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@xxxxxxx>, Council GNSO 
>>> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date:       5/14/2011 5:18 AM
>>> Subject:    [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant 
>>> Support Second Milestone Report
>>> Thanks Olivier.
>>> 
>>> GNSO Council, FYI.
>>> 
>>> A good weekend to all.
>>> 
>>> Stéphane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 14 mai 2011 à 11:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Dear Stéphane,
>>>> 
>>>> please find enclosed, a copy of our follow-up message to the Board 
>>>> including ALAC comments.
>>>> Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any query about its 
>>>> contents.
>>>> Have a good week-end!
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Olivier
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Message original --------
>>>> Sujet:     Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second 
>>>> Milestone Report
>>>> Date :     Fri, 13 May 2011 20:26:34 -0700
>>>> De :       ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Pour :     Secretary <secretary@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Copie à :  ocl@xxxxxxx <ocl@xxxxxxx>, carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx>, rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>, ICANN At-Large Staff<staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,  
>>>> The At-Large staff has the honor of transmitting to you, on behalf of the 
>>>> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC):
>>>> The Second Milestone Report of the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support 
>>>> Working Group ( JAS WG), with a revised ALAC introduction (entitled 
>>>> “Status of this Document”); and
>>>> The Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone 
>>>> Report.  
>>>> We request that these documents (attached here) be forwarded to the 
>>>> members of the ICANN Board.   
>>>> The Second Milestone Report was received by the ALAC and the Generic Names 
>>>> Supporting Organization (GNSO) on 7 May 2011.  Then, the At-Large staff, 
>>>> on behalf of the ALAC, initially forwarded this Report to the Board on 9 
>>>> May 2011.  Please note that the Report itself has not been substantively 
>>>> changed since the Board initially received it on 9 May.
>>>> During the period 7–13 May, comments on the Report were collected from the 
>>>> At-Large Community.  These comments are the basis for the Statement of the 
>>>> ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report attached here.
>>>> The ALAC ratification process for the Second Milestone Report and the ALAC 
>>>> Statement will begin on 14 May, and the results will be forwarded to the 
>>>> Board.
>>>>            
>>>> Please note that GNSO approval of this document is being conducted 
>>>> independently and has not reached the approval stage. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, and 
>>>> Marilyn Vernon
>>>> ICANN At-Large Staff
>>>> 
>>>> email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org
>>>> website: www.atlarge.icann.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> <jas-milestone2-report-7may11-en-alac-revision.pdf><AL-ALAC-ST-0511-2 ALAC 
>>>> Statement on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report - EN.pdf>
>>> 
>> 
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