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Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion


Thanks Jeff.

So how about this as the full additional Resolve:

RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council recommends that a concise summary of the 
WG Guidelines be drafted by ICANN Staff, following approval of the GNSO Working 
Guidelines by the GNSO Council, in order to serve as a primer to the full 
document  for potential WG members. The one-page summary should be approved by 
the PPSC before being submitted to the GNSO Council.

Stéphane

Le 11 janv. 2011 à 16:18, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :

> I believe that this would be friendly if we can remove the word "one-page" 
> and replace with something like "short and concise.". Totally understand and 
> agree with the concept, but the words "one-page" may be too limiting. If you 
> can accept that, I will gladly accept the rest as friendly.
> 
> Thanks. 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. 
> Vice President, Law & Policy 
> NeuStar, Inc. 
> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> 
>  
> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 09:58 AM
> To: Neuman, Jeff 
> Cc: 'GNSO Council' <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Subject: Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion 
>  
> Thanks Jeff.
> 
> That being the case, I would like to propose an amendment to your motion.
> 
> I would propose that a 3rd resolved clause be added stating the following:
> 
> RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council recommends that a one-page summary of 
> the WG Guidelines be drafted by ICANN Staff in order to serve as a primer to 
> the full document  for potential WG members. The one-page summary should be 
> approved by the PPSC before being submitted to the GNSO Council.
> 
> I hope you can consider this amendment friendly.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 10 janv. 2011 à 17:32, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
> 
>> Stephane,
>>  
>> I think you have some good points and I completely understand the notion of 
>> having too much to read for what seems like fairly simple concepts.  The 
>> PPSC did not discuss this issue and I am not sure to what extent the WG-WT 
>> discussed. 
>>  
>> However, I believe that once the principles are approved by the Council, 
>> that we (the Council) can direct the staff to draft up a shorter summary 
>> (with encouragement to read the full report).  I suppose the PPSC could 
>> review the summary to make sure it is in line with the final report.  We 
>> could also when it comes time to approve the principles in our motion direct 
>> that staff hold a short session at the start of every Working Group to 
>> educate Working Group members on the basics for those interested.
>>  
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>>  
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
>> 
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>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:17 AM
>> To: Neuman, Jeff
>> Cc: 'GNSO Council'
>> Subject: Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion
>>  
>> Hi Jeff,
>>  
>> Because these WG guidelines are intended for use by WG members (see 1.3) I 
>> find it surprising that they would be expected to read a 35 page document in 
>> order to get a grasp on the way ICANN recommends they should set-up and run 
>> their WG.
>>  
>> I do not find it realistic to expect volunteer members of a WG, not all of 
>> which would necessarily be very clued on up ICANN processes (nor should we 
>> expect them to be if we are to encourage broader community participation), 
>> to have to tackle such a report. As such, I fear that what we will end up 
>> seeing happening is that people do not read these guidelines and do not 
>> profit from them.
>>  
>> With regards to this, has the idea of producing a one-page summary of the 
>> guidelines been discussed by the PPSC at all? The idea would be to have some 
>> kind of WG guideline "primer" which could help people understand what is 
>> expected of them as part of a GNSO WG.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> Le 2 janv. 2011 à 03:53, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> All,
>>  
>> Please find enclosed the Final Working Group Work Team report as approved by 
>> the Policy Process Steering Committee.   I am also attaching for the 
>> Council’s review a redline of the report that compares the Final to the 
>> Interim Report that came out prior to the Brussels meeting.  The changes 
>> reflect public comments to the Interim report plus changes made as a result 
>> of questions raised by the PPSC as addressed by the Working Group Work Team. 
>>  All of the constituencies/Stakeholder Groups represented on the PPSC 
>> approved the final report with the exception of the Business Constituency, 
>> who did not vote.   The ALAC representative, who does not officially get a 
>> vote, also expressed his approval of the report.
>>  
>> A non-official informal poll was taken within the PPSC as to whether we 
>> should recommend to the Council that it put the final report out for public 
>> comment before review/approval given the changes that have been made since 
>> the last time the report was out for comment.  The Registries, IPC and ISP 
>> representatives believe the GNSO Council should place the report out for 
>> comment; the Registrars did not think it was necessary, but did not object; 
>> the BC did not vote; and the NCSG opposed making this recommendation to the 
>> Council (believing that the Council should decide for itself what it wanted 
>> to do).
>>  
>> The motion I present below acknowledges receipt of report and requests that 
>> the report go out for comment (should the council elect to put it out for 
>> comment).
>>  
>> I would be happy to answer any questions.
>>  
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  
>> Motion to Acknowledge the Receipt of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines and 
>> Initiate a Public Comment Period
>>  
>> WHEREAS, in October 2008, the GNSO Council established a framework (see GNSO 
>> Council Improvements Implementation Plan; 
>> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements-implementation-plan-16oct08.pdf)
>>  for implementing the various GNSO Improvements identified and approved by 
>> the ICANN Board of Directors on 26 June 2008 
>> (http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-26jun08.htm#_Toc76113182 
>> <http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-26jun08.htm>);
>>  
>> WHEREAS, that framework included the formation, in January 2009, of two 
>> Steering Committees, the Operations Steering Committee (OSC) and thePolicy 
>> Process Steering Committee (PPSC), to charter and coordinate the efforts of 
>> five community work teams in developing specific recommendations to 
>> implement the improvements;
>>  
>> WHEREAS, the PPSC established two work teams, including the Working Group 
>> Work Team (WG WT), which was chartered to develop a new GNSO Working Group 
>> Model that improves inclusiveness, improves effectiveness, and improves 
>> efficiency;
>>  
>> WHEREAS, the WG WT completed its deliberations and forwarded the GNSO 
>> Working Group Guidelines to the PPSC on 1 November 2010;
>>  
>> WHEREAS, the PPSC reviewed and approved the GNSO Working Group Guidelines on 
>> 20 December 2010 [includelink to GNSO Working Group Guidelines once posted]
>> and forwarded the report to the GNSO Council on 30 December 2010;
>>  
>> NOW THEREFORE, BE IT:
>>  
>> RESOLVED that the GNSO Council acknowledges receipt of the GNSO Working 
>> Group Guidelines as delivered by the PPSC and directs ICANN Staff to 
>> commence a twenty-one (21) day public comment period on the GNSO Working 
>> Group Guidelines.
>>  
>> RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council shall take action on the GNSO Working 
>> Group Guidelines as soon as possible after the end of the public comment 
>> period.
>>  
>>  
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
>> 46000 Center Oak Plaza Sterling, VA 20166
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>> <GNSO WG Guidelines - FINAL - 10 December 
>> 2010.pdf><GNSO_WG_Guideline_Revised_Final_Redline_10 December 2010.doc>
>>  
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