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Re: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing

  • To: Lau <richard@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing
  • From: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:27:22 +0300
  • Cc: "'Registrars Constituency'" <registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • In-reply-to: <F130BF921A2A413584EABBD9D3B3C150@MrLauPC>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Thats what i thought
too.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">but seeing this happen
twice in less than 3 years scares me off (although the other domain was
with different registrar)</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">what might be possible
to secure the domains of dead people to their heirs in future for other
registrars?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Lau wrote, On 8/4/2007
12:12 AM:<br>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Well, I&#8217;m
just sitting here
hypothesising.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">But really
Domain Hijacking is usually a
form of online identity theft, where the thief one way or another
convinces the
Registrar, (or the ISP hosting the Admin Email) that he is the owner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I&#8217;m not one
to comment on NSI&#8217;s
security except to say that I highly respect their senior staff and
have
witnessed major efforts to stamp out fraud. If anything NSI could teach
many
other registrars how to protect domains. This is a far cry from the
pre-Champ
M. days.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
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 lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma"
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 lang="EN-US"> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>] <br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 03 August, 2007
10:12 PM<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Lau<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
 w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a></st1:PersonName>;
'Registrars Constituency'<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[registrars] Grave
Robbing and SEDO Fencing</span></font><font color="black"><span
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 face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello
Richard,<br>
  <br>
Lau wrote, On 8/3/2007 7:42 PM:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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    <pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi John,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre>
    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">So, in summary.... an identity theft occurs at NSI (hijacker pretends to be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">Don Teske likely by sending in a fax with faked ID) and the buyer at Sedo<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">claims he's an innocent purchaser....&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black"
 face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">its
that simple at NSI to
change domain ownership with fake IDs? <br>
  <br>
it should be harder for american registrant to be faked at american
registrars
due the easier methods to identify ownership?<br>
  <br>
  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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