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RE: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing
- To: "Lau" <richard@xxxxxxx>, <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Registrars Constituency'" <registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing
- From: <ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:03:42 -0300
- Importance: High
- In-reply-to: <DE3DC25C855C425EA1452E594786DEDB@MrLauPC>
- Reply-to: <ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Sender: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dear John:
Its seems the first step is check with NSI with that happen in the first
place.
Best
Ricardo Vaz Monteiro
http://www.nomer.com.br
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lau
Sent: sexta-feira, 3 de agosto de 2007 13:42
To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Registrars Constituency'
Subject: RE: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing
Hi John,
So, in summary.... an identity theft occurs at NSI (hijacker pretends to be
Don Teske likely by sending in a fax with faked ID) and the buyer at Sedo
claims he's an innocent purchaser....
I was going to say that it's the age-old "I'm an innocent purchaser"
argument, but $3500?
I would submit that paying $3500 for raven.com is not a reasonable amount of
money. Far too low. So low that the buyer knew, or should have known, that
the domain was hijacked. (Or perhaps at Sedo the buyer is the seller, or not
arms-length).
GoDaddy reverting to Directnic reverting back to NSI is very reasonable
under the circumstances.
Thx
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Berryhill
Sent: 03 August, 2007 3:38 PM
To: 'Registrars Constituency'
Subject: [registrars] Grave Robbing and SEDO Fencing
I see a lot of outrageous things in the course of a few days, so it is hard
to peg my moral outrage meter, but this one is a cut above....
Raven.com was originally registered through NSI in 1992 to:
RAVEN Computer Systems
PO Box 44309
Minneapolis, MN 55344
USA
Administrative, Technical Contact:
Teske, Don dwt@xxxxxxxxx
As was noted on the web page for 15 years
(http://web.archive.org/web/20040602192346/www.raven.com/faq.html)
Is the RAVEN domain for sale?
No, this domain is not for sale.
According to the Social Security Death Index, the principal of the company,
Mr. Teske, died on October 3, 2005. His widow continued to use her
raven.com email address.
In June 2007, an interesting change happened to the WHOIS at NSI:
Administrative Contact
Gostowski, Kushaiah don_teske@xxxxxxxxx
Several days later, the domain was transferred to Directnic as:
Registrant:
Raven
123 Main St
Fresno, CA 94205
US
4152273833
Administrative Contact:
Gostowski, Kushaiah don_teske@xxxxxxxxx
And was offered for sale via Sedo after a quick change to:
Registrant:
Raven
One Wilshire Blvd
Los angeles, CA 90010
US
3109009783
Administrative Contact:
Colton, Mark ravenheadinc@xxxxxxxxx
The name sold at Sedo for $3,500 on July 3, 2007, was shipped out to
GoDaddy, and is now registered as:
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration RAVEN.COM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
At the moment, it is up for auction at Ebay, Item 330151932746
This is the first time this domain is for sale since
registration in 1992
raven.com
You will never get a chance like this again.
My local pawn shop does more in the way of verifying the identity of sellers
than Sedo does.
Mrs. Teske, by the way, would like to have the domain name back.
John Berryhill, Ph.d., Esq.
4 West Front St.
Media, PA 19063
(610) 565-5601
(267) 386-8115 fax
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