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[registrars] RE: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with "forgiveness" for those who choose to pay $250.

  • To: "Robert F. Connelly" <BobC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Registrars Constituency" <registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "RC Voting Members" <votingmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [registrars] RE: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with "forgiveness" for those who choose to pay $250.
  • From: "Adrian Kinderis" <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:33:21 +1000
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  • Thread-topic: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with "forgiveness" for those who choose to pay $250.

Bob,

 

Please explain what you mean by the phrase "Adrian became a member of
the "larger" Excom"?

 

I never said it was not fair to charge one member more than another.
Please don't misquote me. Otherwise I would never have supported a
"forgiveness" model. By definition it allows for different levels of
contribution.

 

The point I made was that having one Registrar pay more may create the
situation whereby they felt they had more say in matters; it is a
perception issue. Also I think it is a slippery slope when you start
asking for contributions based on names under management as it doesn't
equate to profit (and never has).

 

Regards,

 

Adrian Kinderis
Managing Director

AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd
Level 8, 10 Queens Road
Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004
Ph: +61 3 9866 3710
Fax: +61 3 9866 1970
Email: adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Web: www.ausregistrygroup.com <http://www.ausregistrygroup.com/> 

 

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From: owner-votingmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-votingmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert F.
Connelly
Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2007 6:52 PM
To: Registrars Constituency; RC Voting Members
Subject: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with "forgiveness" for those who
choose to pay $250.

 

Dear Members:

There has been very little discussion of the proposed budget.  Debate
ends on Friday, 3 August, just five days from now. 

Let me tell you how we got to where we are with $750/year with $250 for
those requesting "forgiveness":  

Tim Ruiz, whose company, Godaddy, pays $250/year, suggests that some of
the larger RC members pay a higher fee.  That resounded to Excom as
though it was worth considering.  However, Adrian became a member of the
"larger" Excom and he said it was not fair to charge one member more
than another.  The issue was dropped. 

Then the idea of $750 was vetted, with possible forgiveness for those
who felt they should only pay $250.

Here is the proposed budget:

Registrar's Constituency Budget                   
2007-2008                         
Review Period:  30 Days                   
                          
Income & Assets                           
Current Assets (Bank Account)             $37,672.31     
Proposed Dues           $750.00                  
Number of Members                        50              $37,500.00

Proposed Reduced Fees    $250.00                 
Number of Members w/reduced fees         10             $2,500.00       
                  $75,172.31     
                          
Expenses                          
Administrative Support-2                  $15,000.00     
Professional Support-3            $30,000.00      
Technical Expenses-4              $4,000.00      
Meeting Expenses-5                $5,000.00      
                  $54,000.00     
                          
Expected Ending Balance           $21,172.31     

end quote:

It occurs to me to point out that some members have membership for one
company but in some way control several other registrars.  They take out
only one membership because they could not have more than one vote.

But they take advantage of that one membership to promote issues of
interest (and value) for all of them.

Since Tim Ruiz was the one who volunteered to pay a higher "tier" of
membership dues, let me use Godaddy as an example:

At 09:40 AM 3/8/2007 Thursday  -0700, Tim Ruiz wrote:
Tom, all of the operational Go Daddy Group registrars agree with the
statement and can be added as signatories. 
 
GoDaddy.com, Inc. (RC member)
Wild West Domains, Inc.
Blue Razor Domains, Inc.
Go Australia Domains, Inc.
Go Canada Domains, Inc.
Go China Domains, Inc.
Go France Domains, Inc.
Go Italy Domains, Inc.

end quote:

That would be seven membership, at $250/each, that would be $1,750.

NetSol controls ICANN Accredited Registrars.

But what about Snapnames, Namescout and eNom?  It is suggested that some
of them have over 100 other ICANN Accredited Registrars.  If they
coughed up $25,000 each, we could afford the "Technical Support"
consultant shown in blue in the Budget, above.

I think it would be helpful if the members who had the most at stake
were to pay in proportion to their ICANN Accreditations.

We have five days to discuss these issues.

Regards, BobC































































































































































































































































2007-2008 






























































































































































































































































Review Period: 30 Days 






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































Income & Assets 






























































































































































































































































Current Assets (Bank Account) 
$37,672.31 




























































































































































































































































Proposed Dues $750.00 





























































































































































































































































Number of Members 50 $37,500.00 




























































































































































































































































Proposed Reduced Fees-1 $250.00 





























































































































































































































































Number of Members w/reduced fees 10 $2,500.00 






























































































































































































































































$75,172.31 




























































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































Expenses 






























































































































































































































































Administrative Support-2 
$15,000.00 




























































































































































































































































Professional Support-3 
$30,000.00 



























































































































































































































































Technical Expenses-4 
$4,000.00 




























































































































































































































































Meeting Expenses-5 
$5,000.00 






























































































































































































































































$54,000.00 




























































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































Expected Ending Balance 
$21,172.31 































































































































































































































































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