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Re: [registrars] Anyone signing the new .COM contract by the 30th?
- To: "Mitchell, Champ" <Cmitchell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [registrars] Anyone signing the new .COM contract by the 30th?
- From: Larry Erlich <erlich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:33:27 -0500
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"cut all registrars off" - We returned our agreement.
Not sure I agree that they couldn't find some logic to cut off
some but not all registrars or *play some type
of game* now or in the future.
No, I don't think they will do that but it is possible.
Of course all this power that exists with Verisign
dates back to the days of the Network Solutions
monopoly and the original deals that
were cut.
By the way, I think, in a way, this
describes the contracts that registrars are
required to sign in order to do business:
http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=2325&bold=contract||
adhesion contract
n.(contract of adhesion) a contract (often a signed form) so imbalanced
in favor of one party over the other that there is a strong implication
it was not freely bargained. Example: a rich landlord dealing with a
poor tenant who has no choice and must accept all terms of a lease, no
matter how restrictive or burdensome, since the tenant cannot afford to
move. An adhesion contract can give the little guy the opportunity to
claim in court that the contract with the big shot is invalid. This
doctrine should be used and applied more often, but the same big
guy-little guy inequity may apply in the ability to afford a trial or
find and pay a resourceful lawyer.
Larry Erlich
http://www.DomainRegistry.com
Mitchell, Champ wrote:
Jim,
Do you really think that VeriSign will cut off one of its major sources of revenue and
go into Q1 at a run rate below its published projections?
They are not going to cut all of the registrars off.
Further, if they actually did become possessed by aliens and
try to do something so stupid and self-destructive, we will be
in federal district court for a TRO immediately, which will in all
likelihood be granted and
you will all benefit from our spending money on lawyers. Enjoy your
weekend. Best, Champ
W. G. Champion Mitchell
Chairman & CEO
O: (703) 668-5200 | www.networksolutions.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Archer [mailto:jarcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:49 AM
To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Rob Hall'; Mitchell, Champ; bhavin.t@xxxxxxxxxxx; Nevett, Jonathon; 'Mark Jeftovic'
Cc: 'Registrars Constituency'; kurt.pritz@xxxxxxxxx; 'Tim Cole'; 'John Jeffrey'
Subject: RE: [registrars] Anyone signing the new .COM contract by the 30th?
Folks, the immediate problem we have is a practical one. Will Verisign
turn us off if we don't return the agreement?
If so, we're forced to sign it, in which case I doubt it would be held
valid as it was signed under duress, but that takes a legal action to
determine.
We really can't afford to have Verisign turn us off, so since there has
been no word from ICANN or Verisign on this we'll probably sign it and put
it into FedEx today. Then we have time to deal with the other legal issues
later.
--On Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:11 PM -0500 John Berryhill
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All,
To the extent that anyone may have already signed Verisign's document on
the basis of the demonstrably false representation by Verisign that it
was the agreement that was approved by DoC and ICANN, then Verisign would
appear to have the larger problem, since it would be voidable on the
ground of fraudulent inducement.
Any registrars in that position should contact their legal counsel.
Sincerely,
John Berryhill, Ph.d., Esq.
4 West Front St.
Media, PA 19063
(610) 565-5601
(267) 386-8115 fax
*******************************
James W. Archer
CEO
Registration Technologies, Inc.
http://www.RegistrationTek.com
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