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Re: [registrars] Ballot Request: Adopt as Constituency Position

  • To: Rob Hall <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [registrars] Ballot Request: Adopt as Constituency Position
  • From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:05:44 -0400
  • Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
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The PDP requires the constituency to take a position on these two questions. To the extent that the constituency has adopted a position, its representatives shouldn't be advocating other positions. If this statement isn't adopted as the position of the constituency, we will need to keep re-crafting until a position is adopted - which the representatives to the task force should advocate.

Individual members of the constituency are provided with substantial and numerous opportunities to ensure that their specific points of view are entered into the public record and considered by the task force and council - this is what the numerous public comment phases are for. The task force and council does review these comments and they are considered at length (a review of the minutes and MP3 of the last Whois TF123 meeting will bear this out - we spent a substantial period of time review the 5 or so comments that were submitted)

In the absence of a clear position, I concur that our representatives should be delegated the responsibility to advocate reasonably on our behalf and given the autonomy to do so.

Given the formality of the policy development process as it relates to constituency position statements and similar documents, I'm not inclined to take this as a friendly amendment. I haven't consulted with the other reps on this subject (Paul, Tom and Tim Ruiz) but I'm guessing that they would concur with me on this point.

Rob Hall wrote:
Ross,

I am also a little concerned about your motion wording.
I am referring to the part that forces our elected reps to only advocate
this position.  I suspect that this will not be a unanimous position, and I
would always want our reps to present what actually occurred, or what the
entire constituencies opinion was.  This would include presenting a
dissenting opinion if one existed with fair support.

I know in the past, our reps have voted on issues as they interpreted the
constituency desire.  I would like to continue to trust them to do so.  I
have great confidence in their ability to take the temperature of the
constituency and represent us well.

Will you consider removing the last part of your motion after "... And
require its task force reps ....".

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:00 PM
To: ross@xxxxxxxxxx; registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [registrars] Ballot Request: Adopt as Constituency Position

Ross,

Can you send us the blacklined version of whats changed in your document
from the original ?

Rob.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ross Rader
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:37 PM
To: registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [registrars] Ballot Request: Adopt as Constituency Position

Registrars;

Per Whois Task Force 123's Terms of Reference, we are required to adopt a
position concerning the purpose of the Whois service and the purpose of the
Registered Name Holder, Technical and Administrative contacts (see below for
an excerpt of the terms of reference for the task force).

As a representative to this task force and with the input and assistance of
the other representatives to this task force, I have prepared a policy
position that I seek to have adopted by the constituency. This position
statement is attached.

I therefore would like to make a motion as follows;

***MOTION
Whereas, the Registrar Constituency has considered a range of issues related
to the intended and appropriate purpose of the gTLD Whois System, and;

Whereas, the Registrar Constituency has considered a range of issues related
to the intended and appropriate purpose of the Registered Name Holder,
Administrative and Technical Contacts, and;

Whereas, the Registrar Constituency seeks timely resolution of these matters
in a consensus-based manner that takes into account the needs of all
stakeholders including individual and corporate domain name registrants, the
internetworking community and gTLD Registries and Registrars, therefore;

Be it resolved that the Registrar formally adopts the position statement
entitled "The Purpose of the gTLD Whois System and Specific Contact Records"
and require its task force representatives to advocate these positions
within the Task Force and other ICANN fora as appropriate.
***ENDofMOTION

I have attached both Word and PDF versions of this document to this message.
I will also be forwarding this draft document to the Task Force
  as a heads up concerning our deliberations.

If you have any questions, please let me know. Your support for this motion
would be sincerely appreciated.

-ross


Excerpt from WhoisTF123 Terms of Reference;
(1) ...the purpose of the WHOIS service in the context of ICANN's mission
and relevant core values, international and national laws protecting privacy
of natural persons, international and national laws that relate specifically
to the WHOIS service, and the changing nature of Registered Name Holders.

(2) ...the purpose of the Registered Name Holder, technical, and
administrative contacts, in the context of the purpose of WHOIS, and the
purpose for which the data was collected. Use the relevant definitions from
Exhibit C of the Transfers Task force report as a starting point (from
http://www.icann.org/gnso/transfers-tf/report-exhc-12feb03.htm):

"Contact: Contacts are individuals or entities associated with domain name
records. Typically, third parties with specific inquiries or concerns will
use contact records to determine who should act upon specific issues related
to a domain name record. There are typically three of these contact types
associated with a domain name record, the Administrative contact, the
Billing contact and the Technical contact.

Contact, Administrative: The administrative contact is an individual, role
or organization authorized to interact with the Registry or Registrar on
behalf of the Domain Holder. The administrative contact should be able to
answer non-technical questions about the domain name's registration and the
Domain Holder. In all cases, the Administrative Contact is viewed as the
authoritative point of contact for the domain name, second only to the
Domain Holder.

Contact, Billing: The billing contact is the individual, role or
organization designated to receive the invoice for domain name registration
and re-registration fees.

Contact, Technical: The technical contact is the individual, role or
organization that is responsible for the technical operations of the
delegated zone. This contact likely maintains the domain name server(s) for
the domain. The technical contact should be able to answer technical
questions about the domain name, the delegated zone and work with
technically oriented people in other zones to solve technical problems that
affect the domain name and/or zone.

Domain Holder: The individual or organization that registers a specific
domain name. This individual or organization holds the right to use that
specific domain name for a specified period of time, provided certain
conditions are met and the registration fees are paid. This person or
organization is the "legal entity" bound by the terms of the relevant
service agreement with the Registry operator for the TLD in question."






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