RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 Hi Danny

I know we haven't adopted them yet but the draft Rules for Participation
state the following:

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The primary objectives of the General Assembly mailing list are as follows:

- to ascertain and represent the consensual views of the ordinary citizen as
a collective as pertaining to the business of the GNSO and ICANN 

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This could make at least the formation of a position statement within our
remit.

However, if the "powers that be" are already actioning this then I see no
need for us to go to these lengths unless the general consensus of the list
determines otherwise.  Thanks for keeping us informed and please continue to
do so.  

Best

Debbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danny Younger
> Sent: 25 July 2007 18:09
> To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: nick.ashton-hart@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> 
> Hi Debbie,
> 
> My own view is that such action (lobbying VeriSign) is not 
> properly within the remit of the GA (although I am amenable 
> to being persuaded otherwise).
> 
> I would think that this should be an activity entered into by 
> the APRALO (that met today in Hong Kong).  We can ask ICANN 
> Staffer Nick Ashton-Hart whether the topic made it into the 
> discussions of those NGOs that are pretending to be the asian 
> at-large community...
> 
> regards,
> Danny
> 
> 
> 
> --- Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Danny
> > 
> > Is there any mileage in the GA lobbying Verisign (and 
> perhaps ICANN - 
> > albeit, as I understand, not within their remit) on behalf of the 
> > hangul IDN user community to reinstate the services required?
> > 
> > Perhaps, as a gesture of goodwill, Verisign could reinstate said 
> > services.
> > Looking at where we are today in the IDN discussions,  I 
> think it is 
> > bad form if users have adopted an IDN service only to then find the 
> > service revoked or partially unavailable.  Not that I can truly 
> > understand the technicalities of it all but I do think this is just 
> > the sort of thing the GA should establish a consensus 
> opinion on and 
> > project it to the various concerned parties.
> > 
> > Best
> > 
> > Debbie
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Danny Younger
> > > Sent: 25 July 2007 13:03
> > > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> > > 
> > > Posted to ICANN's Public Partiocipation Website:
> > > 
> > > Hello, I'm a server manager in a Korean web
> > hosting company.
> > > The recently big obstacle occurs in connection of Hangul(Korean 
> > > alphabet) .com domain. Currently 92%
> > of the
> > > Korean Internet users when using the Hangul.com
> > and
> > > Hangul.net domain which is registered can only see
> > the
> > > message "Page cannot be displayed". Before
> > previously 20th
> > > passed, it does not same current status.
> > > 
> > > So, All of Hangul IDNs registrants are put on the
> > serious
> > > monetary damage and broken fame of their site.
> > > I asked a cause in various registrar and found out
> > that is
> > > discontinues i-nav navigation server operations
> > which the
> > > Verisign operates from Korea and the various area
> > does.
> > > 
> > > Verisign positions which I listen from Korean
> > registrars is,
> > > because MS released ie 7.0, there are not
> > necessity to
> > > operating i-nav navigation.
> > > But this judgement is to be incorrect at least in
> > Korea.
> > > 
> > > After release of MS ie 7.0 at 2006 November,
> > world-wide 4
> > > browsers all under supporting IDNs. But 93% of the
> > Korean
> > > Internet users as yet is using ie6.0. If there is
> > not i-nav
> > > navigation, millions of domain will not be able to
> > use entirely.
> > > 
> > > Because of i-nav navigation, although MS did not
> > update
> > > against ie IDNs after IDNs international standard
> > published,
> > > Hangul IDN service is possible.
> > > Currently the connection of the Hangul .com and
> > Hangul .net
> > > IDN in Korea absolutely depends in i-nav
> > navigation. 
> > > 
> > > Unlike with Europe or the United States, only
> > 7.34% Korean
> > > use the browser which support IDNs. 99% of the
> > Korean
> > > Internet users use MS Internet Explorer, but
> > market share of
> > > 7.0 versions which support IDNs still stop in
> > 6.8%. And IE
> > > 7.0 has not in prospect to automatic update in
> > near future In Korea.
> > > From Friday which passes, when Korea 92.5%
> > Internet user
> > > inputs Hangul .com in the address window, they
> > does not get
> > > any result , or, on top of that they moved toward
> > the
> > > dangerous fishing site. Of course, to previously
> > that also
> > > these users will be able to visit a Hangul .com
> > and Hangul
> > > .net site through i-nav web navigation server.
> > > 
> > > Because well to know Korean Internet environment
> > the KRNIC
> > > which is Korean ccTLD registry operates a
> > difference server
> > > for Hangul.kr domain will be able to connected
> > right site
> > > without help of browser. Verisign judged i-nav
> > navigation
> > > server retirement at least without consideration
> > about this situation.
> > > 
> > > Follows Korean registrars, they are sending a
> > request
> > > Verisign. But it is difficult situation expecting
> > positive
> > > answer. If this disconnection of Hangul.com and
> > Hangul.net
> > > domain is continued, it will bring result which
> > put the
> > > thousands of registrant on enormous loss and, lose
> > the
> > > foundation of IDNs from hereafter Korea.
> > > 
> > > Based on these facts, I proposes ICANN and
> > Verisign to know
> > > about seriousness of problem and to take the
> > appropriate
> > > management. I expects your countermove with deep 
> consideration the 
> > > universality of domain and
> > Internet.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for reading my poor English.
> > > 
> > > * the statistical data which it refers to be
> > referred from
> > > www.internettrend.co.kr reports.
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://public.icann.org/forums/public-forum#comment-321
> > > 
> > > 
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