Re: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Debbie and all,

  Unfortunately this is a URL listing i.e. web address, and therefore
is not *Authoratative* in accordance with US law at the moment.
Secondly, your posting of this link is arguably in violation of the
*Proposed* rules which you and Dr. Dierker are wanting to sell.

However I shall have my sect. send off a notarized letter requesting
confirmation and the authoratativeness of the link you provided.
I will scan and post any response if forthcoming.  If none is
received, I believe the link would legally have to be something
less than *Authoratative* under US law < see Loraine decision
for non authoritative reference, see: http://www.findlaw.com/ search
key words as are appropriate >, and treated accordingly by law
abiding US citizens.

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Debbie Garside wrote:

> I have no qualms in providing an authoritative reference for the official
> languages of Canada.
>
> http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/index_e.php
>
> Best
>
> Debbie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> > Sent: 13 July 2007 09:14
> > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU
> >
> > Kim and all,
> >
> >   I believe Dr. Dierker has a concern regarding "officialdom"
> > as it implies a legality.  So until we have some agreement by
> > vote of the list members, which we do not now, I don't want
> > to offend anyone by declaring or providing reference for
> > anything which would even imply authoritative in any manner.
> >
> >   Secondly, recently in the "Loraine" case I believe the 6th
> > US District court of Appeals, Judge Grimm ruled effectively
> > there are no references on the internet that would be
> > authoritative as I believe your use and meaning of the term
> > here.  Although I disagree with Judge Grimm's ruling, I
> > believe for me to provide any reference as "authoritative"
> > could be considered a willful act of fraud on my part.  So
> > your request *as stated* makes answering it directly in
> > conflict with that ruling.  Hence I cannot ethically provide
> > the answer you requested.
> >
> >   Btw, I also noticed, Roberto also refrained from providing
> > any "authoritative" reference for his claim.. He may be right
> > and I may be wrong or vice versa.  After searching I did find
> > two references that contradicted each other as to this issue,
> > using ask.com of course.  >:)
> >
> >   Frankly however I fail to see the relevance of this issue
> > to the GA, which is yet another stated concern of the chair.
> > As such, refraining form such relevance, however mitigating
> > one may believe the relevance of this issue is or is not, I
> > believe would require a measured consensus, i.e. a vote by
> > the GA members once we have a viable voting method agreed upon.
> >
> >   So in conclusion, I am sorry I cannot more directly answer
> > your valid request, as the chair, and lack of a defined
> > agreeable process and rules, are not yet in place for the NEW
> > GA by which I *might* be able to do so.
> >
> > Kim Davies wrote:
> >
> > > Quoting Jeff Williams on Thursday July 12, 2007:
> > > |
> > > | > And Canada happens to have two official languages,
> > English and French.
> > > |
> > > | Incorrect, Canadas official language is still English.
> > >
> > > Can you provide the authoritative reference? The Official Languages
> > > Act of Canada concurs with Robert's assessment.
> > >
> > > kim
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
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> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
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> > what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
> > burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L
> > multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827