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Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

  • To: veni markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
  • From: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:56:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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Vini and all,

  Who's throwing stones?  From your remarks it seems
you are here Vini.  In any event, I found Georges remarks,
comments and stated observations very thoughtful.  I
am sorry you did not.

-----Original Message-----
>From: veni markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jun 28, 2007 3:18 PM
>To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
>
>At 12:02 6/28/2007  -0700, George Kirikos wrote:
>
>>This was not a "personal attack", but an accurate observation -- try to
>>find *any* statement by you that is negative towards ICANN. That's the
>>definition of cheerleader.
>
>Two ways to respond to this:
>
>a) Do you think that the only contribution is to be negative about something?
>b) You think it's accurate, right? Perhaps you should go into the 
>records of the meetings while I have been on the board, and then may 
>be, just may be, you will be able to see that there are ways to be 
>critical, without being negative.
>Ah, and btw, as a native-English speaker, please, let us know what 
>would be the opposite of cheerleader? I guess that word would 
>describe you, so, please, be careful :-)
>
>>ignore. When 99%+ of people logically are against something (e.g.
>>VeriSign contracts, .biz/info/org contracts), you ignore them.
>
>This is so inaccurate. I wish sometimes you really think first, write 
>second, not the opposite. As for the votes on the Board - when people 
>start to accept that a vote is a vote, and then people should move 
>on, instead of going over and over in history, again, and again... 
>then, perhaps, the time spent on this mailing list, will be more 
>fruitful. So far all I see is history, history, history... And 
>negativism, negativism, negativism.
>
>
>>For someone who only a few posts ago scolded "old timers" it is ironic
>>you would use the phrase "I have been on the internet long
>>enough......" Expecting logical consistency from you within a matter of
>>hours, though, isn't something I would expect. I know better.
>
>Oh, I am sure you know better. For example "being on the internet 
>long enough" (in 3 months will turn 17 years) is not equal to "being 
>on this list for 7 years". Of course, when you say what you say 
>above, you just show that there's a misunderstanding. However, and 
>this is the key point - instead of asking when there's something 
>unclear, you assume you know the answer. Therefore the discussion is 
>over before it has begun - you already have an opinion (you know 
>better, right?)
>
>>I'll be remembered in a positive light for my contributions.
>
>I am not interested in engaging in a discussion about you, 
>personally. We were talking about contributions to the ICANN process.
>
>>What have you done?
>
>Why do you think I care what you think about what I've done? And why 
>do you think I would spend time answering, since before even waiting 
>for the answer, you already have an opinion? You know, the Internet - 
>for a huuuuuuge majority of the people - does not start with the 
>domain names, and esp. with the ".com, .net, .biz, etc", and does not 
>end with the IP addresses, as many of the North/West people believe - 
>that is, if I judge by the amount of time spent on writing about 
>these issues, but nothing about legal framework encouraging Internet 
>development, or e-commerce, or affordability of the access, or - in 
>many cases - the access itself. As for the domain names - somehow 
>the  Germans have registered much more - percentage wise - ".de" 
>domains, than the rest of the world - ".com", but it seems some 
>people tend to not notice that, and don't make any conclusions out of it.
>
>>Spending money wisely? Not in ICANN's mission.
>
>You are indeed a special expert - every time you ask a question, you 
>have the answer. Why bother at all writing the questions, then :)
>
>veni  
>
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