RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

["Dominik Filipp" <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>]

Dear Veni,

I really like your sentiments about comparison of the GA with the Soviet
propaganda. I just regret you have almost forgotten what this was all
about. I have not.

Yes, after all, we all can be positive, constructive and easy going.
Just, we have to get by with what is realistically achievable and keep
hands off of delicate issues like those silently negotiated behind
closed doors. And step by step achieving small but positive changes...

Sounds reasonably, even encouragingly ..., just it reminds me what I had
been living in for over twenty years much more than fussy manners of the
GA members.

Dominik

P.S. Though still overworked I'll try to gradually contribute more on
the topics. My apologizes for not having been here for so long.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of veni markovski
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:49 PM
To: Debbie Garside
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

Dear Debbie,
perhaps now you can see for yourself why people at this list are quite
quiet - if someone like you makes any attempts to bring the discussion
to the common sense, he or she will be blamed immediately as someone who
either a) doesn't understand, or b) has no knowledge [of this long
history].

Now that I think about it, it reminds me very much of the Soviet
propaganda from the 1970s. "The world imperialism", "the international
situation", "progressive humankind" and such cliches were in the daily
news, 365 days every year, and in intercalary years it was 366 days when
i was hearing such spells.

However, to end at a positive note - I think what you are writing makes
more sense than many of the other cliches we see around ICANN. 
It's always good to hear someone new, unencumbered with this long
history.

Don't give up! And don't pay attention to the negativists.

Best,
Veni

At 08:15 6/28/2007  -0700, sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Hi Danny
> >
> > Thanks for the outline.  I can, somewhat, understand your
frustration.
> > However as an observer I can perhaps see why, I have been subscribed

> > to this list since December 2006 and from what I can see the 
> > majority of posts are highly critical of ICANN and not in any way 
> > constructive; it is the constructive aspect that is missing.
>
>Well, Debbie, here's some food for thought for you... those of us who 
>have been on these ICANN mailing lists since 1998 have seen our 
>constructive input completely ignored for 8 years before you came 
>along.  Perhaps we're a little tired of being ignored? More than just a
little frustrated...?
>Perhaps we're tired of obsequious johnny-come-latelies of the "civil 
>society" sort showing up who know nothing of the history of ICANN and 
>telling us how to be constructive?  Perhaps you should familiarize 
>yourself with ICANN history before you come out scolding those of us 
>who have been members of these mailing lists as well as original ICANN 
>At-Large Members for many years before you even knew there was an
ICANN...
>
>SS