Re: [ga] Re: [RAA] working group to design a better RAA

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

we already have requests in for at least 4 WGs. All of which are to be posted to this list with various initials to put before each one. Yeah, that's easy.

As a list member, I should not need to participate in any WGs then because they will all already be on the mailing list anyway and I can just respond to whatever one I want anyway.

Calling them WGs is a misnomer. They are just different subject threads just as we already have now. So we really don't have WGs we just have different threads.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hugh Dierker 
  To: kidsearch ; Jeff Williams ; GA 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [RAA] working group to design a better RAA


  The arguments for seperate lists ignore the problems involved therein. Be that as it may I am inquiring as to obtaining a list that would not be subject to the whims of the owner. I personally can follow just about any method and I am a good test market.
  Perhaps we should have a start up here and then let the group decide how to move forward and what is best for them. This will keep it very open and yet able to relocate as the work of the group demands it.

  Eric


  kidsearch <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    A WG is formed to work on a specific topic. trying to discuss ten things at 
    once is an obvious distraction. it would still be done mailing list style 
    even though that is totally outdated and not user-friendly for most users.

    Forums would still be a better option and more people are familiar with 
    forums and how to use them and they find it easier because it is separated 
    into different threads.

    The mailing list is archaic and only of use to a few people who can follow 
    it.

    However, since it seems no one involved in Internet governance can seem to 
    grasp the whole forum concept we will always use a mailing list and will 
    always have limited participation, which I believe is the real goal of 
    proponents of this method of communication.

    Having at least a separate mailing list for a WG until it achieves it's goal 
    is necessary in my opnion.

    Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
    http://www.articlecontentprovider.com



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Jeff Williams" 
    To: "GA" 
    Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:40 AM
    Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [RAA] working group to design a better RAA


    > Joop and all,
    >
    > What distractions, and distractions from what exactly are you
    > referring to for a list based WG, Joop?
    >
    > [RAA] is in the subject line, and this is also what Dr. Dierker had
    > already suggested.
    >
    > CC'ing is not a bad thing depending on if whom is being CC'ed is
    > a list member or not. If not CC'ing is for informational purposes
    > and is beneficial as such. Otherwise CC'ing is overly redundant.
    >
    > Joop Teernstra wrote:
    >
    >> At 12:28 a.m. 10/04/2007, kidsearch wrote:
    >> >Eric, there is a problem I'd like to address. Whenever a WG is formed
    >> but
    >> >still posts to the list, even with the subject line changed, people
    >> not
    >> >involved in the WG continue to comment. I understand the need for
    >> >transparency and agree with anything that makes things more
    >> transparent.
    >> >However, I run a nonprofit org and whenever a committee is formed to
    >> >discuss a particular topic, they do it among themselves and take
    >> minutes
    >> >so others can read what went on in those discussions. Then the
    >> committee
    >> >reports their findings back to the board. it's efficient.
    >> >
    >> >I think a WG should have their own mailing list and archives that
    >> anyone
    >> >can read. If you really want to get something done, then a WG has to
    >> be
    >> >formed and allowed to get their work done, then report their findings
    >> back
    >> >to the list. That's my opinion.
    >> >
    >>
    >> Eric,
    >>
    >> I agree with Chris. We can report weekly or fortnightly to the list,
    >> but in
    >> order to get work done, we need to be free from distractions and
    >> possible
    >> trolling.
    >> As long as we have to operate by cc-ing, I would like to ask WG
    >> participants to put [RAA] in the subject line.
    >>
    >>
    >> -joop-
    >>
    >
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