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RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar/RAAs

  • To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar/RAAs
  • From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
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There is the RAA which is somewhat standardized by ICANN. It needs to be brought up to date with this century. 
   
  Then there is the registrant agreement side of the Registrar. Transfers and drops are not very uniform and the policies in place do very little for the consumer, be them B2B, Business to Individual or just plain for fun.
   
  It seems to me that the resulting registrant agreements and inextricably entwined with the RAAs. 
   
  Therefor I would suggest we put together a working group to make our input on the RAAs known and heard. 
   
  If volunteers are not forthcoming I will beg and cajole and threaten people to head the wg. It is my understanding I have about 205 to chose from.
   
  Eric

"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  I wonder how many registrars have clauses similar to this?

Chuck Gomes

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:48 PM
> To: Gomes, Chuck; Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> One of the problems that we registrants are facing stems from 
> Terms of Service Agreements deliberately designed to 
> circumvent the Expired Domain Deletion Policy. For example, 
> consider this clause in the Network Solutions Service 
> Agreement version 7.7.7:
> 
> "Should you not renew the domain name during any applicable 
> grace period, you agree that unless you notify us to the 
> contrary we may, in our sole discretion, renew and transfer 
> the domain name to Network Solutions or a third party on your 
> behalf (such a transaction is hereinafter referred to as a 
> "Direct Transfer"), and your failure to so notify us after 
> the domain name expiration date shall constitute your consent 
> to such a Direct Transfer." 
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Gomes, Chuck" wrote:
> 
> > Bashar,
> > 
> > Registrars should be able to address this better than me 
> because they 
> > work with it everyday, but the clause that I thought was especially 
> > relevant was the following:
> > 
> > "3.7.5.3 In the absence of extenuating circumstances (as defined in 
> > Section
> > 3.7.5.1 above), a domain name must be deleted within
> > 45 days of either the
> > registrar or the registrant terminating a registration agreement."
> > Extenuating circumstances are clearly spelled out in 
> Section 3.7.5.1 
> > and any that are not listed must be approved by ICANN. So 
> my question 
> > is this: if no extenuating circumstances exist, may a 
> registrar keep a 
> > name longer than
> > 45 days before deleting it and still be in compliance with this 
> > policy?
> > 
> > Chuck Gomes
> 
> 
> 
> 
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