Re: [ga] Notification of Self Organization

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rod and all,

  Yes I think your right.  John is a good egg, and strove mightily
to work within the skewed ICANN structure to little or no
avail and mostly ending in endless circular arguments which
ended nowhere.

roddixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> I agree with the comment below and John Levine's article on CircleID
> reinforces Jeff Wiiliams' point. Of course, the ALAC's failure may mean
> that this effort will fail as well (again). But, there is no doubt that
> there is a need for an active and lively GA, and maybe this time we can
> surprise the naysayers.
>
> Rod
>
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/why_i_left_icann_at_large_alac/
>
> > Dominik and all,
> >
> >   The GA is not as George suggests, but I think I can see his
> > concerns.  The GA can be what it once was if we self organize
> > as what is seemingly being desired by some few GA list subscribers.
> >
> > The GA is not now and never was a "Constituency" of the GNSO
> > or the defunct old DNSO.  It IS and was a "General Assembly".
> >
> > This thread is a notice of "Self Organization" of the GA, not
> > a registrants constituency, but can and should be used as
> >  a medium of promoting a Registrants Constituency, as
> > well as a At Large/users Constituency for non registrants/users
> > as the ALAC is and has always been a failure due to lack
> > of representation on the ICANN Bod and a vote on any and
> > all policy considerations.
> >
> >
> > Dominik Filipp wrote:
> >
> >> George,
> >>
> >> it makes no sense to recall the whole genesis all over again. But take
> >> it as a result of strong dissatisfaction over the long-term persisting
> >> inactivity regarding the legitimate interests of the
> >> registrants/stakeholders/users.
> >>
> >> Yes, no GA vote will ensure the acceptance of voting result within the
> >> structures. On the other hand, formulating and expressing a clear
> >> representative opinion as a result of common consensus backed up by
> >> legitimate voting is much stronger mechanism than just noncommittal
> >> small-talks scattered everywhere and eventually vanishing to
> >> nothingness. Especially, when various serious issues are to be addressed
> >> and solved such as registerfly or domain tasting, just mentioning few of
> >> them.
> >>
> >> If we succeed in identifying and addressing important issues as well as
> >> in bringing some valuable ideas on how to solve them and bring into life
> >> then this will be our contribution to what we understand as a bottom-up
> >> consensus; it can also be an inspiration and motivation for people
> >> working within the ICANN structures.
> >>
> >> I see the necessity of such a GA structure at least until a full-fledged
> >> Registrants Constituency is established.
> >>
> >> Dominik
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> >> Of George Kirikos
> >> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:13 PM
> >> To: ga
> >> Subject: Re: [ga] Notification of Self Organization
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> --- Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >   I strongly and urgently request that if there is any objection to
> >> > this project that we be notified on this list that it be made kinown
> >> > to this list no later than March 30th of this year 2007.
> >>
> >> I'd repeat my comments from January, see:
> >>
> >> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga/msg05788.html
> >>
> >> This list is supposed to be a cross-constituency discussion forum, not a
> >> "MUD", where people role-play, pretending that they can run for office,
> >> in between slaying dwarves and rescuing princesses.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> George Kirikos
> >> http://www.kirikos.com/
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827