Re: [ga] Registerfly loses approximately 75,000 customer domains

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dominik and all,

  The actual Internet commerce association link is here:
http://www.internetcommerceassociation.com/registerfly_under_fire

  This saga reminds me allot of how Joop handled his "Voting Booth"
back in the days of the IDNO.

  I am also a bit puzzeled as to why you removed the CC's to
media sources and DOC/NTIA eMail addresses???  So, I am
adding them back...

  My concern from an ecommerce view, is that ICANN's lack of decisive
action has caused significant business disruption to the point of being
interpersonally dangerous, and signiling a rift in the confidance of the
business community, small and large that may have long lasting international

ecommerce trade ramifications.  Such may also shake the confidance on
Wall St. and in the banking/lending instutional segments of many national
economies.


Dominik Filipp wrote:

> I have just received the Sedo's February newsletter at
> http://sedo.com/newsletter/us/nl_feb_2007.htm
>
> and I especially recommend reading the article "Domainers, Take a Stand
> in 2007" out there.
>
> Another interesting link mentioned in the article is recently launched
> "Internet Commerce Association" at
> http://www.internetcommerceassociation.com.
>
> Dominik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Andy Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:14 AM
> To: Prophet Partners Inc.
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; John M.R. Kneuer (U.S. Department of Commerce);
> Vint Cerf; Anick Jesdanun (Associated Press); Arik Hesseldahl
> (BusinessWeek); Paul Sloan (Business2.com); Scott Ard (c|net); Rachel
> Rosmarin (Forbes); Adam Gaffin (NetworkWorld); Brian Krebs (Washington
> Post); CNN News Tips; NY Times News Tips
> Subject: Re: [ga] Registerfly loses approximately 75,000 customer
> domains
>
> Hows that data escrow going ICANN? Got it going yet yet?
>
> No, I thought not.
>
> The domain registrants get screwed again.
>
> Taxation of the unrepresented.
>
> On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:50 AM, Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > That's correct, no one on this mailing list sees this as being a
> > surprising event.
> >
> > Registerfly with an estimated 2 million domain names, is one of the
> > top 10 domain registrars in the world, as measured by the total number
>
> > of domains under management. By their own admission in the court
> > document mentioned earlier, they recently failed to register or renew
> > approximately 35-40 % (75,000 / 200,000) of their customers' domains.
> > Complaints are rampant, with customers that paid for timely renewals
> > later receiving notification that their domains were expiring. To
> > compound the problem, many people complain that their domains are now
> > locked at Registerfly, without the ability to transfer out to another
> > registrar. Customer accounts of customer support being unresponsive or
>
> > unreachable are also widespread. This is far from being a small
> > problem and certainly not representative of a secure and stable DNS.
> >
> > Given that Registerfly is ICANN accredited and ICANN's primary
> > objective is to maintain and ensure the security and stability of the
> > DNS, what has ICANN done and what should they do to protect domain
> > registrants who are customers of Registerfly? Note that Danny
> > Younger's message was sent to Vint Cerf, Chairman of ICANN's Board,
> > nearly 3 months ago. What consumer benefits are there to choosing an
> > ICANN accredited registrar over one that is not? What is ICANN doing
> > to earn the $0.25 "tax" (without representation) for each annual
> > domain registration / renewal paid by domain registrants (who have no
> > influence on the shaping of ICANN policies)?
> >
> > ICANN wants to eventually gain autonomy from the U.S. Department of
> > Commerce, but what have they demonstrated through past actions to
> > prove that they are capable of being autonomous? To the contrary,
> > ICANN has repeatedly shown that they do not act in the best interests
> > of the public community of domain registrants.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Ted
> > Prophet Partners Inc.
> > http://www.ProphetPartners.com
> > http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com
> >
> > CC: John M.R. Kneuer (Assistant Secretary of Commerce for
> > Communications and Information, U.S. Department of Commerce - NTIA)
> >     Vint Cerf (Chairman of the Board, ICANN)
> >     Anick Jesdanun (Associated Press)
> >     Arik Hesseldahl (BusinessWeek)
> >     Paul Sloan (Business 2.0)
> >     Scott Ard (c|net)
> >     Rachel Rosmarin (Forbes)
> >     Adam Gaffin (NetworkWorld)
> >     Brian Krebs (The Washington Post)
> >     CNN News Tips
> >     The N.Y. Times News Tips
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Prophet Partners Inc." <Domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Registerfly loses approximately 75,000 customer
> > domains
> >
> >
> >> Ted and all,
> >>
> >>   Interesting, but not all that surprising.  On the surface it would
> >> seem that the allegations are more based on poor expense reporting
> >> mechanisms and even worse employee supervision or Registerfly is
> >> trying to cover up some mistakes in registrar management.
> >>
> >> Prophet Partners Inc. wrote:
> >>
> >>> A February 12, 2007 complaint was filed by UNIFIEDNAMES, INC. d/b/a
> >>> Registerfly and JOHN NARUSZEWICZ v. KEVIN MEDINA in the U.S.
> >>> District
> > Court
> >>> of New Jersey. It states that as of December 2006, roughly 200,000
> > domains
> >>> were registered on behalf of customers and that approximately 75,000
>
> >>> of these customer domains were lost since January 2007, due to the
> >>> actions
> > of
> >>> the Defendant, which resulted in failure to pay the required
> >>> registry
> > fees.
> >>>
> >>> The Plaintiff alleges that the Defendant wasted company money to pay
>
> >>> for
> > a
> >>> personal escort, rent on a Miami penthouse, personal credit card
> >>> bills
> > and
> >>> liposuction, in addition to withdrawing thousands of dollars from
> > company
> >>> accounts for personal spending.
> >>>
> >>> http://registerflies.com/docman/cat_view-2.html
> >>>
> >>> This would certainly explain the Registerfly problems addressed by
> >>> Danny Younger on November 30, 2006.
> >>> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga/msg05232.html
> >>>
> >>> However, ICANN's failure to act and protect Registerfly customers
> > remains
> >>> unexplained.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> Ted
> >>> Prophet Partners Inc.
> >>> http://www.ProphetPartners.com
> >>> http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> --
> >> Jeffrey A. Williams
> >

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