Re: [ga] Ticketless

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Arguing gets us to a point we can agree Eric. Thats what the list is for. Just seemed like you were ready for us to be "represented" by someone a little early is all. I think we need to define things a bit better before we go around being represented anywhere. Difference of opinion is all. But you were on the WGs weren't you? We used the voting booth there after discussions to see where we were as far as consensus. They were not all "official" votes. Some were just a show of hands. We also as you suggested though, discussed what would be the options to vote on. That wasn't done this time really, but still could be. I think we have had enough debate now that we could throw out the last vote and take another.

I suggest the options be 

Elect a Chair and Co/Vice Chair with the chair being also a Representative
Elect a Chair and Co/Vice Chair who do not represent us and act more as moderators
Elect a single Chair with the chair being also a Representative
Elect a single Chair who do not represent us and acts more as moderator

Any other options you would like to see vioted on?

Would you rather leave the vote as it is or revote with clearly defined options?

Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://www.articlecontentprovider.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hugh Dierker 
  To: kidsearch ; ga 
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [ga] Ticketless


  Fine with me, just change the words co-chair and state all the possibilities in there instead.
  Yes, people can see things the way they want to and people like you can point out how wrong they are and then we wheetle down the differences and come up with a consensus.

  I am cool with your "moderator" type concept to begin with and get things up and running.
  Looks to me like we agree on a lot but someone wants to argue for some reason.

  Eric

  kidsearch <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    Eric, you talk of one-man efforts, yet you have ASSUMED people want to follow your co-chair idea. There were some votes there. 4 said one chairman and 2 said co-chairs, and 4 said other. I'd hardly call that a consensus in favor of the co-chair idea.

    I can see why you would rather keep it on the list. On the list people can view or describe consensus the way their rose colored glasses tell them it looks. In the voting booth that isn't so easy.

    I think co-chairs is a bad idea for now. I believe we just need a mooderator or chairman for now to get discussions going, working groups going, on different topics that could then be voted on. We did that in WGs and it worked just fine and not a co or vice among them.

    Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
    http://www.articlecontentprovider.com

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Hugh Dierker 
      To: ga 
      Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:21 PM
      Subject: [ga] Ticketless


      Should the election for co-chairs be on a ticket? I think not. 1st and 2ND place vote getter's or by consensus would be optimum. The main reason I say this is that I think we will get the most divergent of view chairs, if we choose them this way. (i do not worry of them getting along and working together - as, if they are elected from here, the generally assembled, folks would not elect someone who could not be counted on to act appropriately)

      I think it important to keep in mind we are a General Assembly and we should behave like one with great debate and reasonable striving for consensus. While I have only been to a couple physical meetings of the GA, prior to cessation of such endeavors, I found the assembly to be very well run. We must honor the diversity of membership and when need be champion that character of the GA. In that vane I reiterate that the first and second vote getter's should be the co-chairs.

      I also believe that voting for them, the co-chairs first would allow them to do the work and organization to establish whatever type of charter/structure we should have here. With that in mind a short 6 month term for the first elected persons, with a vote of confidence or not, should be put in place.

      Eric

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