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[ga] Re: [Politech] Is Spamhaus blacklist of Terrorism Research Center too much? [sp]

  • To: Declan McCullagh <declan@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [ga] Re: [Politech] Is Spamhaus blacklist of Terrorism Research Center too much? [sp]
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:13:44 -0800
  • Cc: General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, veni markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>, icann staff <icann-staff@xxxxxxxxx>, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, essential ecom <ecommerce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, devost@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Declan and all,

  Yes I believe it is way too much.  Seems however some ex ICANN
Bod members and some ICANN staff members don't seem to
think so.  Veni, are you paying attention?

  From a ecommerce view, I agree with Matthew's remarks
below...

Declan McCullagh wrote:

> This isn't a new problem. If the facts below are accurate, it's
> Spamhaus' way of trying to force people not to patronize Internet
> service providers that are used by spammers. Here's a discussion we had
> about blacklists in 2002 and 2003:
> http://www.politechbot.com/p-04772.html
> http://www.politechbot.com/p-03734.html
>
> -Declan
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: SpamHaus - Irresponsible Net Citizen
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:21:19 -0500
> From: Matthew G. Devost <devost@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: declan@xxxxxxxx
>
> Declan,
>
> Hope all is well.  Thought your Politech readers might be interested
> in the following account of the Terrorism Research Center being
> blocked by SpamHaus because we have an IP address in the same subnet
> as an organization that engaged in direct mailings for Staples.
>
> Rather than block the suspect IP address, SpamHaus is blocking the
> whole subnet.  As a result, an organization that has been on the
> internet for over 10 years (with zero spam complaints) and on the
> same static IP address for over 5 years gets listed as a spammer
> causing us tremendous harm to our business operations.
>
> http://blog.devost.net/2007/01/28/spamhaus-irresponsible-net-citizens/
>
> This seems to be a very bad trend as those that have established the
> trust of the community no abuse that trust through laziness and
> arrogance.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> -------------------------------
> Matthew G. Devost
> President and CEO
> Terrorism Research Center, Inc.
>
> (703)812-7938 (office)
> (703)626-0272 (mobile)
> (703)935-2666 (fax)
>
> devost@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.terrorism.com
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Regards,

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