RE: [ga] VeriSign offering Chinese IDN-TLDs?? Which root??

[JFC Morfin <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

CNNIC just cleverly organises the various possibilities the 
IETF/WG-IDNA refused to document to support a full MLDNS. The WG-IDNA 
opposed that solution when I proposed it. It permits to support 
chinese names from non-Chinese ISPs without a plug-in and to drop the 
".cn" when accessing from patched ISPs. This is not the best 
impossible in an IETF environement solution, but this is one of the solutions.

One must understand that the root servers/alt-root concepts are 
technically obsolete (but politically useful). Name resolution is 
usually carried at local network and ISP level. At that level the top 
zone information is usually obtained in two ways (for the DNS): the 
ftp internic source for the NTIA root file and stub files shopped by 
the ISP the way it wants. In addition other resolution processes may 
occur at ISP (and at user level): keywords (determined by the ISP) 
and aliases (determined by the ISP and the user). This actually makes 
five different systems when the IETF wants to identify and document 
the management of a single one to please ICANN (and until recently Verisign).

One must understand that there are seven or more successive ways in 
the resolution path to support keywords under windows (when the 
entered string triggers its conversion into an IP address). This 
means that there may be keywords conflicts which will be addressed in 
a given order. Without a standardization keywords are not trustable 
and aliases may create havoc.

We are in a typical case where innovation is blocked by 
"manufacturers" and where we have a lead user (China) break through. 
The interest is that the Chinese approach is typical of the 
Multi-Internet (coexistence of multiple approaches of the digital 
ecosystem), and is totally foreign for the time being to the "I*" 
establishment's culture, vision, and short-term interests.
jfc


At 00:51 27/10/2006, Gomes Chuck wrote:
> Sorry for the delay in responding George.
>
> VeriSign is not operating an internationalized top level domain name
> (TLD)registry or registrar. The service offered by the Digital Brand
> Management Service (DBMS) business unit of VeriSign, Chinese
> internationalized TLD domain name registrations, is offered by CNNIC,
> the registry operator for the .cn TLD. VeriSign's DBMS business unit is
> offering such registrations as a provider of brand and identity
> management services across the globe.
>
> Chuck Gomes
> VeriSign Information Services
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Kirikos
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:16 PM
> > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ga] VeriSign offering Chinese IDN-TLDs?? Which root??
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > According to:
> >
> > http://www.verisign.com/Resources/Digital_Brand_Management_Ser
> > vices_Resources/Digital_Branding_Bulletin/page_039521.html#0100000A
> >
> > Verisign is offering "Chinese-character extensions", equivalent to
> > .china, .company, and .network.
> >
> > In which root are these being offered??
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/
> >
> >